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"I'm guessing 400 miles is empty, no trailer,.."

They aren't thinking about RVers at all, KD. Down the line hopefully.


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Reisender wrote:

Oh it’s not virtually zero...ITS ZERO...and has been for almost 6 years. [emoticon]
Excellent! I look forward to being in that position myself.

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A shot of one of the Superchargers on one of our routes.

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Are they powered by diesel engines?


These are in BC, so hydro.

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Are they powered by diesel engines?
Just the other side of the car can be seen the two engines that run non stop to keep power in those Supercharger stations [emoticon]


There are at least four boxes in the photo, I suspect the two that are similar may be the controllers, the other boxes might be generators and maybe for backup only. Where they do use generators, I sure hope they are paying the road fuel taxes.





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Lynnmor wrote:

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Lynnmor wrote:

Are they powered by diesel engines?
Just the other side of the car can be seen the two engines that run non stop to keep power in those Supercharger stations [emoticon]


There are at least four boxes in the photo, I suspect the two that are similar may be the controllers, the other boxes might be generators and maybe for backup only. Where they do use generators, I sure hope they are paying the road fuel taxes.


Can’t say I have ever noticed any generators there. It’s a V3 supercharger so maybe it’s storage as V3’s usually have some on-site power storage. The other cabinets are probably just inverter/converter trays. It’s a small mountain town nestled in the cascades in BC. Mining, snowmobiling, cross country sking. Nice little town.

I can’t say I have ever been to a Supercharger with a generator of any type. But then again. I have probably only been to 8 or 10 Superchargers soooooo. Maybe a dozen at most. V3’s are easy to tell from the older V2’s but the cabinets look similar although like I say some (maybe all, I don’t know) V3’s have on site power storage cabinets as well. No idea how much storage and how it’s used.

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EV cost of ownership comparison.

https://insideevs.com/features/498553/tesla-model-3-vs-camry-cost-ownership/


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Where they do use generators, I sure hope they are paying the road fuel taxes.
Yes I am fairly certain all Supercharger stations that burn diesel are paying fuel tax. [emoticon]


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Where they do use generators, I sure hope they are paying the road fuel taxes.
Yes I am fairly certain all Supercharger stations that burn diesel are paying fuel tax. [emoticon]


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I wish they would give a realistic range when being used as a truck. I'm guessing 400 miles is empty, no trailer, no tool boxes or ladder racks to mess up the aerodynamics, not in four wheel drive off road, and no heat, AC, lights, wipers, defroster, etc. being used.
What's the range when loaded with 1,500 pounds of tools and supplies while towing a skid loader on a trailer at night in a snow storm. That's how I seem to end up using my trucks.


Do they do that with gas half tons?


Look, I wasn't insulting the truck or the technology. All I'm saying is since this is something new that people aren't nearly as familiar with a much better metric of describing range would be VERY useful. I think most people have been around gas powered vehicle long enough they know what to expect. Not so with electric. For instance, today I drove 100 miles to a rural construction site, worked all day, hooked up to a 6,500 pound trailer, and drove 100 miles back home. I have absolutely no idea if an electric truck could have done this or not because they don't publish any kind of data like that.

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KD4UPL wrote:

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I wish they would give a realistic range when being used as a truck. I'm guessing 400 miles is empty, no trailer, no tool boxes or ladder racks to mess up the aerodynamics, not in four wheel drive off road, and no heat, AC, lights, wipers, defroster, etc. being used.
What's the range when loaded with 1,500 pounds of tools and supplies while towing a skid loader on a trailer at night in a snow storm. That's how I seem to end up using my trucks.


Do they do that with gas half tons?


Look, I wasn't insulting the truck or the technology. All I'm saying is since this is something new that people aren't nearly as familiar with a much better metric of describing range would be VERY useful. I think most people have been around gas powered vehicle long enough they know what to expect. Not so with electric. For instance, today I drove 100 miles to a rural construction site, worked all day, hooked up to a 6,500 pound trailer, and drove 100 miles back home. I have absolutely no idea if an electric truck could have done this or not because they don't publish any kind of data like that.


Yah I get that. Unfortunately I think we will have to wait until there are real world trip reports out there.

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