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Posted: 04/14/21 08:46am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If the OPs issue is like rickjos pics then yes it appears the outside rails of camper aren’t able to be supported by the bed structure.
After maybe 20k miles of hauling an AF860 in a short bed (similar stresses I’d imagine), the camper, early on, dented the very rear of the truck bed floor on both sides under the edge of the camper. But the camper seemed to “settle in” there and not further damage the truck bed.
Bottom line, TCs aren’t the “distributed load” on the bed floor that they would appear to be. Taking the bottom cover off of mine to repair a tank support piece confirmed it. The bulk of the weight is transferred to the truck on the 2 outside edges.
If I got a new truck and heavy TC, I would absolutely consider a layer of plywood or foam if I was concerned about damage to the truck bed.
Pickup beds ain’t indestructible. That’s why flatbeds, hauler beds and dump boxes are made. For heavier use than a pretty truck bed can handle.
With TCs being a unique and very small % of end users of pickup trucks, it stands to reason that trucks aren’t specifically designed to haul TCs.


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Avid Fox wrote:

Sorry about duplicates, it's harder to post pics on a phone...

Anyway, it's on both sides of bed. At about the same intensity.

I did bolster the tail of the camper for a while, to stop movement, but I think it just made it worse, as the forces were increased on the trail of the bed, rather than just letting it rock around on the rubber mat.

Next time it's going to be an F550 or Ram 5500. I blame the aluminum bed currently.


It looks like you're using bed-mount tie-downs. An aluminum bed, heavy camper, and bed-mount tie-downs sounds like a recipe for these kinds of damages. I'd switch to frame mount to prevent further damage, or use this as an excuse to buy a flat bed with storage boxes.


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Posted: 04/14/21 09:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There's no such thing as a bed-only mount for a 5000lb camper.

The happy jacks at the front are mounted through the bed, but tie into the frame rails below. Bed only attachment would have fallen off years ago...

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Avid Fox wrote:

There's no such thing as a bed-only mount for a 5000lb camper.


Edit - looks like HappiJac is sort-of, kind-of "frame mount", but the TorkLift design appears much better.

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The happy jack vs tork lift debate is a whole other subject... Which I'd love to do at another time when I have a full keyboard rather than my phone.

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There's no mystery here about why this is happening, it's a heavy camper moving around while in transit, on a marginal truck for the weight of the camper.

I was just wondering if others are having the same issues with their 10-12' ~5000lb campers.

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Avid Fox wrote:

There's no mystery here about why this is happening, it's a heavy camper moving around while in transit, on a marginal truck for the weight of the camper.

I was just wondering if others are having the same issues with their 10-12' ~5000lb campers.


No issue with my 1140 on a 2019 Ram 3500. Lots of off-road use and a lot of bloat as well - probably a good bit heavier than your 1150 unless you carry a lot. We full-time in it and have full storage compartments, lots of spare parts, and heavy tools. Our solar/electrical system alone adds around 700lbs. Our camper doesn't seem to budge, with Torklift mounts and Fastguns, spray-in bedliner, and a 3/8" DeeZee rubber mat.

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While I've been somewhat considering a 5500, it's hard to justify since everything is working so well on my 3500. It took some trial and error on the suspension for me to be happy with it, but otherwise, no issues or complaints.

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Does your 2019 Dodge have a steel bed, rather than aluminum, as the Ford does now?

Here's a good video an info for a ram 5500 flatbed. About half price of a Douglas body, so he says.

https://www.stablecamper.com/truck-beds

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Avid Fox wrote:

Does your 2019 Dodge have a steel bed, rather than aluminum, as the Ford does now?

Here's a good video an info for a ram 5500 flatbed. About half price of a Douglas body, so he says.

https://www.stablecamper.com/truck-beds


Yeah, steel. I agree with you that the aluminum is the issue, not so much the weight of the camper if that weren't the case.

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Avid Fox wrote:

Does your 2019 Dodge have a steel bed, rather than aluminum, as the Ford does now?

Here's a good video an info for a ram 5500 flatbed. About half price of a Douglas body, so he says.

https://www.stablecamper.com/truck-beds


Yeah, steel. I agree with you that the aluminum is the issue, not so much the weight of the camper if that weren't the case.


NO the aluminum bed is NOT the issue. I have had both. The 2004 steel bed was much worse. As I indicate in my earlier posts, the horse stall mats and Torklift tie downs have made bed damage in my aluminum bed a non-issue. My aluminum bed still looks new after 15k miles on the new setup.

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