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Teamjd wrote:

Having sold my 2012 1500 Limited because I couldn't tow anything without the wife and kids running along side the truck, here's my 2 cents:

The 5000 lbs. tow number is based on a max 500 lb tongue weight.
Anything over that, they want you to use a weight distributing hitch.
It's in the manual. That's how you get to the 9850 lb. number.
And to get to that number, you better be at half a tank of gas and take a dump before you drive alone down the road.

As for the max you can legally tow (not talkin redneck if it moves, I can tow it Ye Haw!), there's only one way to know. Take it to the scales.

1.Load up your truck with everything you are going to take that's not going into the trailer, filler up with gas, and weight it at the scales with you in it. (no need to drag the family along)
2.Add the weight of your passengers to that number.
3.Subtract that from the 7000 GVWR of the Ram 1500

That number is the max tongue weight you have left before you max out your payload. It's 10% of the weight you can safely tow at max payload.
Don't be surprised when that scale comes back at 6700 lbs.
What the hell are you doing.
Why are you lying to the guy. Ram 1500 weighs no where near 7000 lbs. I have mine registered in NY as Passenger.

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pitch - I believe he's saying that once you add all the additional gear for camping and the passengers, you'll have used up most of the 1180lb payload for that truck. Not that the truck alone weighs 6700lbs.


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For those saying "just do it" and don't worry about the numbers, please remember that most people asking "can I tow this" don't have the years of towing experience that you do. And before they start ignoring the numbers they should understand the numbers and have more experience towing within those numbers before letting loose.

Reminds me of my co-worker. Nice kid fresh outta college. Boss teaches him all the big equipment. The boss has been around for years and is well-versed on the equipment. New guy has never driven anything but his car and that for only about 5 years.

One day, I walk in from the warehouse and see a massive hole in the wall to the breakroom. I ask what happened. The new guy did it trying to move a pallet out of the hallway. Apparently, the pallet was in the corner which had a support pillar in the middle of the space. He was trying to maneuver the forklift around the pillar to grab the pallet and miscalculated.

I asked "why didn't you just use the hand jack to move the pallet?". He never thought of that. Because the boss, who had the experience and skill to operate the forklift in most any situation, never suggested that a smaller tool might be a better and safer tool in certain situations.

Just because YOU have the experience and knowledge to tow more than the truck is rated for, doesn't mean everyone should be doing so by default.

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I towed a 28 foot TT weighing between 4000 to 4500lbs GW with a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 5.2 V8 2X2 in flatlands of Texas using a WDH with no problems at all. Truck was also fully loaded with camper shell too.

However, in the mountains of the west coast and Rockies I towed same trailer with a Dodge Ram 2500 V10 4X4 with of course no problems.

The V10 was a towing beast and YES I could easily afford the gas. Cheers

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toedtoes wrote:

For those saying "just do it" and don't worry about the numbers, please remember that most people asking "can I tow this" don't have the years of towing experience that you do. And before they start ignoring the numbers they should understand the numbers and have more experience towing within those numbers before letting loose.

Reminds me of my co-worker. Nice kid fresh outta college. Boss teaches him all the big equipment. The boss has been around for years and is well-versed on the equipment. New guy has never driven anything but his car and that for only about 5 years.

One day, I walk in from the warehouse and see a massive hole in the wall to the breakroom. I ask what happened. The new guy did it trying to move a pallet out of the hallway. Apparently, the pallet was in the corner which had a support pillar in the middle of the space. He was trying to maneuver the forklift around the pillar to grab the pallet and miscalculated.

I asked "why didn't you just use the hand jack to move the pallet?". He never thought of that. Because the boss, who had the experience and skill to operate the forklift in most any situation, never suggested that a smaller tool might be a better and safer tool in certain situations.

Just because YOU have the experience and knowledge to tow more than the truck is rated for, doesn't mean everyone should be doing so by default.


x2! Well said. Those that say "just do it" are almost always experienced towers and aren't taking in the fact that the vast majority of the "can i tow this" group, have never towed anything. Especially with all the new Covid RV owners this past year.


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^Part of that statement is correct.
The part you left out is most of those that are saying “don’t do it” don’t have enough mechanical aptitude to say that based on safety or capability but rather because they only know some number is being exceeded.
As evidenced by you never hear the don’t do it crowd put forth actual evidence why it shouldn’t be done, aside from the one liner “mfgs recommendations say so and I’m not smarter than the engineer”. Without any recognition of what might be related to mechanical capability and what might be related to vehicle classification and taxation.


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bikendan wrote:


Those that say "just do it" are almost always experienced towers and aren't taking in the fact that the vast majority of the "can i tow this" group, have never towed anything. ...


I doubt previous towing experience will be of much help if any overloaded tire blows while driving at high speed on an Interstate.

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JimK-NY wrote:

bikendan wrote:


Those that say "just do it" are almost always experienced towers and aren't taking in the fact that the vast majority of the "can i tow this" group, have never towed anything. ...


I doubt previous towing experience will be of much help if any overloaded tire blows while driving at high speed on an Interstate.



Someone with years of experience in towing will be more likely to understand how to react when that tire blows. A towing newbie in that situation is very scary.

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toedtoes wrote:

JimK-NY wrote:

bikendan wrote:


Those that say "just do it" are almost always experienced towers and aren't taking in the fact that the vast majority of the "can i tow this" group, have never towed anything. ...


I doubt previous towing experience will be of much help if any overloaded tire blows while driving at high speed on an Interstate.



Someone with years of experience in towing will be more likely to understand how to react when that tire blows. A towing newbie in that situation is very scary.


Yet here 3 of you are talking about tires blowing out, presumably with no knowledge that even the lowest rated tires you could likely drive off the new car lot with on a well equipped half ton pickup would easily handle 2500+ lbs of rear axle payload before reaching their rating.
And being a 2012, maybe the appropriate question is “Wwhat tires you running?” , not blathering about a component that is easily figured out as not being the weak part of the gvws equation. It’s not even the weak part of the rawr equation.

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toedtoes wrote:

JimK-NY wrote:

bikendan wrote:


Those that say "just do it" are almost always experienced towers and aren't taking in the fact that the vast majority of the "can i tow this" group, have never towed anything. ...


I doubt previous towing experience will be of much help if any overloaded tire blows while driving at high speed on an Interstate.



Someone with years of experience in towing will be more likely to understand how to react when that tire blows. A towing newbie in that situation is very scary.
A guy with little experience is more likely to be driving with due caution. I’m much more likely to see some guy with plenty of experience with the diesel dually pulling a 40 ft fifth wheel, in the right lane, hammer down, driving like his pants are on fire. I can tell which guy I’m more afraid of.

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