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spoon059 wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:

The 2500 Ram has coils springs on the rear. Not the best for max loads.


My coil springs are rated for 6500 lbs, WAY more than a 10,000 lbs class limited truck needs. Also I've noticed Fords have a saggy suspension with weight, something I haven't seen with the newer Rams. I respectfully disagree with your comment.


Same here, no issues with mine at all and I have a heavy flatbed on mine and load either a golf cart or 4 wheeler with the trailer hitched. I did add air bags though.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

I said open the HOOD. YIPEE your oil filter has easier access, from below. I simply remove air intake and RnR my oil filter from above.

Both of my fuel filters are easy to access.

I have owned the 68 RFE and AISIN they are both USMade.

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Power Stroke Made in Mexico

Cummins doesn’t need 8 or 10 speeds. Think we have beat that subject to death.

I just go in from the passenger side fender. I bought the plug for the top of the oil filter and I can have the old one off and the new one on in about 5 minutes. I don't see the big issue with it. Knocking on wood, my 68RFE has been pretty good so far, I do agree with Grit that it seems to shift a little soft. But at least I don't have to worry about lifting heads or if I get a little bit of water in my fuel and the engine blowing up.

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Gas engine in the shop, figure $400.00 for pulling into the bay. Diesel figure a grand!

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mudfuel07 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

I said open the HOOD. YIPEE your oil filter has easier access, from below. I simply remove air intake and RnR my oil filter from above.

Both of my fuel filters are easy to access.

I have owned the 68 RFE and AISIN they are both USMade.

Cummins US Made

Power Stroke Made in Mexico

Cummins doesn’t need 8 or 10 speeds. Think we have beat that subject to death.

I just go in from the passenger side fender. I bought the plug for the top of the oil filter and I can have the old one off and the new one on in about 5 minutes. I don't see the big issue with it. Knocking on wood, my 68RFE has been pretty good so far, I do agree with Grit that it seems to shift a little soft. But at least I don't have to worry about lifting heads or if I get a little bit of water in my fuel and the engine blowing up.


Same here , did it “ ONCE” thru the top ,that was enough of that . Thru the fender is much easier .

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pitch wrote:

Gas engine in the shop, figure $400.00 for pulling into the bay. Diesel figure a grand!


Had the fan pulley bolts come loose on my Cummins diesel, pulled into the bay , and out for $300. They must of had a discount that day [emoticon]

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mudfuel07 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

I said open the HOOD. YIPEE your oil filter has easier access, from below. I simply remove air intake and RnR my oil filter from above.

Both of my fuel filters are easy to access.

I have owned the 68 RFE and AISIN they are both USMade.

Cummins US Made

Power Stroke Made in Mexico

Cummins doesn’t need 8 or 10 speeds. Think we have beat that subject to death.

I just go in from the passenger side fender. I bought the plug for the top of the oil filter and I can have the old one off and the new one on in about 5 minutes. I don't see the big issue with it. Knocking on wood, my 68RFE has been pretty good so far, I do agree with Grit that it seems to shift a little soft. But at least I don't have to worry about lifting heads or if I get a little bit of water in my fuel and the engine blowing up.


Run Tow Haul and the shifts will be better. I like from the top because you can look at the turbo and toe boost pipe below intake. My boost pipe was getting chafed and would head blown if I had not looked. Replaced under warranty. Don't need any special tools from the top or the chance of spilling as I pre fill my filter as suggested by cummins.


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dodge guy wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:

The 2500 Ram has coils springs on the rear. Not the best for max loads.


My coil springs are rated for 6500 lbs, WAY more than a 10,000 lbs class limited truck needs. Also I've noticed Fords have a saggy suspension with weight, something I haven't seen with the newer Rams. I respectfully disagree with your comment.

Thats fine...My thinking was if the OP was going with a heavy truck camper.
Those that have the 2500 Ram/heavy TC say they have sag and sway issues. BUt if the OP goes with a 12k 5th wheel trailer it should be fine.


Hen you can get the air bag option that will level the truck out. But I’ve yet to hear a complaint from anyone with coil springs on a 3/4 ton.


That's because you don't hang out on the TC forum [emoticon]


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swimmer_spe wrote:

One reason for going diesel is that as the world switches to electric vehicles, diesel will be one of the last types to disappear.


I take it you aren't familiar with the refining process. What do you think they are going to do with the gasoline that comes out of each barrel?

They can tweak the gasoline to diesel a little by the refining process but there is always a substantial amount of gasoline produced even when tweaked for maximum diesel.

Also, what do you think will happen to the roads when they no longer have the asphalt for asphalt concrete (hint: Portland cement concrete consumes huge amounts of petroleum products)


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valhalla360 wrote:

swimmer_spe wrote:

One reason for going diesel is that as the world switches to electric vehicles, diesel will be one of the last types to disappear.


I take it you aren't familiar with the refining process. What do you think they are going to do with the gasoline that comes out of each barrel?

They can tweak the gasoline to diesel a little by the refining process but there is always a substantial amount of gasoline produced even when tweaked for maximum diesel.

Also, what do you think will happen to the roads when they no longer have the asphalt for asphalt concrete (hint: Portland cement concrete consumes huge amounts of petroleum products)


This is not about the refining process, but the engines that run off them. More and more manufacturers are moving away from gasoline engines. There will be a tipping point that will have all new ICE running diesel. So, before the manufacturers go completely electric, diesels will be the last hold out.

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Ha!!!

The old switheroo in these projections !

Before diesel became popular for non-working trucks...diesel was often half to even 1/3rd the cost of gasoline...

EV’s will still need asphalt, which has a crude component.

Plastic is now being considered as a filler for asphalt and hope it comes. As ground up tires has been GREAT filler for asphalt


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