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mkirsch wrote:

You're not going to downshift and cruise on down the hill with your feet flat on the floor towing a trailer. Most vehicles won't even do that empty.


I do exactly that - I usually let the EB do all the work and don't even have to touch the brakes except to slow for curves.

All your statement does is show that you've never driven anything with an effective EB. Nothing more.

Regarding Op's question, that engine will be far less effective than the 8.1L in your sig. And the 8.1 in your sig will be far less effective than a modern Cummins, Duramax, or Scorpion.

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^True statement by jshupe...


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jshupe wrote:

mkirsch wrote:

You're not going to downshift and cruise on down the hill with your feet flat on the floor towing a trailer. Most vehicles won't even do that empty.


I do exactly that - I usually let the EB do all the work and don't even have to touch the brakes except to slow for curves.

All your statement does is show that you've never driven anything with an effective EB. Nothing more.

Regarding Op's question, that engine will be far less effective than the 8.1L in your sig. And the 8.1 in your sig will be far less effective than a modern Cummins, Duramax, or Scorpion.


This has nothing to do with the subject at hand here. Last I checked you could not get a diesel with an engine brake in a 2021 Ford Ranger, so the discussion is limited to gasoline engines.

The OP is trying to tow something like a 4500lb trailer. He does not need a big dually diesel.


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mkirsch wrote:

jshupe wrote:

mkirsch wrote:

You're not going to downshift and cruise on down the hill with your feet flat on the floor towing a trailer. Most vehicles won't even do that empty.


I do exactly that - I usually let the EB do all the work and don't even have to touch the brakes except to slow for curves.

All your statement does is show that you've never driven anything with an effective EB. Nothing more.

Regarding Op's question, that engine will be far less effective than the 8.1L in your sig. And the 8.1 in your sig will be far less effective than a modern Cummins, Duramax, or Scorpion.


This has nothing to do with the subject at hand here. Last I checked you could not get a diesel with an engine brake in a 2021 Ford Ranger, so the discussion is limited to gasoline engines.

The OP is trying to tow something like a 4500lb trailer. He does not need a big dually diesel.


At what point did I say he needs a diesel? I suggested a larger displacement engine that can offer more engine/transmission braking performance, since engine braking is proportional to displacement (and compression).

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With 4500 pound trailer no extra engine braking is needed. Even at the full tow rating no additional engine braking is needed. This would be what the truck is rated for.


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time2roll wrote:

With 4500 pound trailer no extra engine braking is needed. Even at the full tow rating no additional engine braking is needed. This would be what the truck is rated for.


https://fifthwheelst.com/SAE-J2807-Tow-Tests.html

The standardized tow rating tests don't involve anything with downhill braking, where your brakes might fade from overuse and cease to be effective. All they require is that the combination be able to stop in <80ft from 20mph without leaving the lane. Stating that equates to driving in the mountains is disingenuous at best.

Even with J2807, tow ratings are ambiguous and often unequivocal to real-world performance.

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