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Posted: 04/25/21 10:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Lancey wrote:

Is it a "silver fox" edition 2005?...if so, its aluminum frame and if so,the "rot" might be only limited to the thin wood that's between the skin and the foam blocking and aluminum structure....while the repair it self is still on the large side, it's not as bad as some of the others.

I did this repair on my 2005 af990..


If its an aluminum frame why is the cab over drooping??


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RachaelArcticFox wrote:

Oh great to know, hard to hear. Sounds like you are far more capable than I am, looks like I’m gonna need to call in an expert!

Thanks everyone!


If you can't do this repair yourself, I think you need to seriously consider whether it makes financial sense to make the repair of if you should consider cutting your losses, selling this one to someone who can do a a DIY repair, and looking for a different camper.

I have never done this sort of repair, but from what others have said, it appears it will be time consuming. At a minimum of $50/hour for a repair person plus materials, this will add up quickly, and quite frankly it will never be as good as a camper that wasn't water damaged in the first place.

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Posted: 04/25/21 11:41am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would call Northwood’s Mfg. in Oregon and ask them about an outfit in Oregon that does major repairs on Arctic Fox campers.

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and your project begins, hope your road is lined with success all the way.

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specta wrote:

Lancey wrote:

Is it a "silver fox" edition 2005?...if so, its aluminum frame and if so,the "rot" might be only limited to the thin wood that's between the skin and the foam blocking and aluminum structure....while the repair it self is still on the large side, it's not as bad as some of the others.

I did this repair on my 2005 af990..


If its an aluminum frame why is the cab over drooping??


The filon delamonates, fills with water, turns into a birdbath and sags down in the middle, the cab over section itself is not sagging down...it behaves like a waterbed if you press on it...another fun tidbit, af used thick cardboard material between the filon and the wood veneer. It soaks up water like a sponge and would never dry out.

No you won't fall thru the bed, the stringers are aluminum as well, and block foam insulation glued between, nice part is, water can't really wick into the interior.

Having said that, the repair is still a big job, im a tradesman as well so it's just normal repair work for me. I dont recommend taking it on yourself if you don't feel you have the skill set to pull it off.

Also, I would have it inspected for more water damage before digging into it, the cab over water leak was only one of about 5 areas that I fixed due to water damage.....they are a nice well built camper, but water intrusion is a bit of a issue with them

If you can't do the repair work yourself, for sure get quotes...it won't be cheap.


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Posted: 04/25/21 03:56pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Lancey wrote:


The filon delamonates, fills with water, turns into a birdbath and sags down in the middle, the cab over section itself is not sagging down...it behaves like a waterbed if you press on it...another fun tidbit, af used thick cardboard material between the filon and the wood veneer. It soaks up water like a sponge and would never dry out.


Thanks you for the explanation.

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The filon delamonates, fills with water, turns into a birdbath and sags down in the middle, the cab over section itself is not sagging down...it behaves like a waterbed if you press on it...another fun tidbit, af used thick cardboard material between the filon and the wood veneer. It soaks up water like a sponge and would never dry out.

No you won't fall thru the bed, the stringers are aluminum as well, and block foam insulation glued between, nice part is, water can't really wick into the interior.

That's great to know at least I probably won't fall through, and I was worried about water leaking in and then sleeping in a mold pit!
The RV guy I took it to recommended I installed grates over some air holes to try to get it to dry out at least a bit. But from the little inspection I did, I think you're right, it seems like the cardboard is a sponge that will never dry out. At this point, I guess I'm going to continue to silicone EVERYTHING I can to at least keep more water from coming in, and pray I can have at least a few trips over this summer. Definitely was a long time dream to get a cabover camper, and boy did I learn about what to look for when buying used.
It really is heartening to know there's so much wisdom out there, so grateful for everyone taking the time to chime in on this thread, I'm learning so much!

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Geo*Boy wrote:

I would call Northwood’s Mfg. in Oregon and ask them about an outfit in Oregon that does major repairs on Arctic Fox campers.


That is a great idea! Thank you!

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midnightsadie wrote:

and your project begins, hope your road is lined with success all the way.


I love this, reminds me that curveballs like this are part of the adventure of having a rig like this, I may as well get used to these sorts of projects, big and small. I guess the more projects, the more love I put into it. Thank you for the well wishes, they mean a lot!

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If you can't do this repair yourself, I think you need to seriously consider whether it makes financial sense to make the repair of if you should consider cutting your losses, selling this one to someone who can do a a DIY repair, and looking for a different camper.

I have never done this sort of repair, but from what others have said, it appears it will be time consuming. At a minimum of $50/hour for a repair person plus materials, this will add up quickly, and quite frankly it will never be as good as a camper that wasn't water damaged in the first place.

I appreciate this perspective, I think you are really right, probably best to enjoy the camper while I can in the state it's in, or perhaps with a few bandaids, then find someone capable who wants to take on the project, give them a sweet deal and cut my losses. I already made one less than ideal investment, it's smart to consider the financial viability of the fix. Thanks for sharing this, it's really helpful.

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