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FWC

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Posted: 05/11/21 12:19pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

valhalla360 wrote:

Don't even consider california. It makes no sense.

You can find 4x4 trucks everywhere. The biggest issue is they may never have used the 4x4, so check that it engages and disengages properly.


Yes, you can find the trucks anywhere, but try finding a used 4x4 Sprinter Van, Sportsmobile or a four wheel drive capable truck camper like a Hallmark or a Tiger in the East. These are hard to find in general and are really hard to find in the East, because there is really no use for them there.

It all depends on what the OP is looking for, but if they really want a four wheel drive camper to explore North and South America, these are mostly built and found in the rockies and west.

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The biggest issue is they may never have used the 4x4, so check that it engages and disengages properly.


Literally NOT an issue unless they are purchasing some old POS truck.
Given they are likely not, if they can afford the journey they're planning. that wouldn't actually make "the top 50 things to look for when buying a RV" list.


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Yes, you can find the trucks anywhere, but try finding a used 4x4 Sprinter Van, Sportsmobile or a four wheel drive capable truck camper like a Hallmark or a Tiger in the East. These are hard to find in general and are really hard to find in the East, because there is really no use for them there.

It all depends on what the OP is looking for, but if they really want a four wheel drive camper to explore North and South America, these are mostly built and found in the rockies and west.


Very true statement I believe, however there is zero need to purchase in the sate one registers it in.

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You do not a friend to acquire an address . Buy in Florida , pay the sales tax , no taxes after that . Use a mail forwarding service for address . Get what ever drivers license ya need in Florida . No excise tax or annual tax in Florida .

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The Ford truck and truck camper is a great idea for practicality, but not for living in it for two years, but if you can then do that. Working on a regular vehicle is so much easier, and you can drop the camper in the parking lot so any auto mechanic can get it on his lift or in his garage. On that same note, a trailer is as easy to take off too, and will give you more room for full-time living, but harder to take off road.

Stay away from California for anything to do with money.
In Georgia you will pay a sales tax of sorts just to register the vehicle (rv or trailer, but not a truck camper), but not a sales tax if buying used, only when you go to get a license plate and register it will you pay the sales tax, which they call by another name, but it is a sales tax nonetheless.

You do not need friends in a state. FInd a state with low taxes for registering and buying and get it there.

Southern states will have less rust on used vehicles, and trailers. Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina. Louisiani will have hurricane flooded vehicles you have to watch out for (and watch the history on a used vehicle that it was not in that flooded state as vehicles get shipped all over the country for selling). Tennessee and North Carolina and states north might see more salted roads in the winter and have the resulting rust. However for a two year ownership rust is not going to be a big deal unless the brake lines are rusted to the frame and not able to be worked on.

For buying new you have none of these issues.

If venturing south of the border, I would want a new or newish vehicle to avoid breakdowns. Mexico is not going to be the safest place and I cannot say for any others, though people travel as you will a lot with no issues.

Check out Nevada for tax status. Get your cell phone there as it has no or very low taxes.

Where you buy a vehicle and where you register it does not matter, it can be different states, you are not required to stay inside state lines. The state you register in might be more expensive or the state you buy it in might be more, just depends on the states.

IF buying used then some states will tax you and some will not as the vehicle was already taxed when it was originally bought so taxing it again is double taxation which is illegal here. They cheat and call it by another name then double tax you anyway. FInd a state that does not.

For selling it will not matter to you about taxes, you get your money and the buyer deals with the fallout.

For selling you will do better in some states than others. Sell in California, lots of money there.

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Thanks. So to fine tune our questions assuming that we will buy, register and insure in either South Carolina or Atlanta, Georgia.
Please can you help us clarify what are the legal steps to put a RV on the road for use?
1)When we buy a RV, does it make a difference if ownership is transferred to a non US citizen?
2)What vehicle checks are required for road worthiness?
3) What is the process to register a RV in the US?
4) What insurance is required for full time use of a RV in the registered state and other states?
5) What is the period we can drive in the US with a U.K. or international driving license?
6) What issues do we need to consider.
Thank you

I have received conflicting info as to paying property tax in South Carolina.

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FWC wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Don't even consider california. It makes no sense.

You can find 4x4 trucks everywhere. The biggest issue is they may never have used the 4x4, so check that it engages and disengages properly.


Yes, you can find the trucks anywhere, but try finding a used 4x4 Sprinter Van, Sportsmobile or a four wheel drive capable truck camper like a Hallmark or a Tiger in the East. These are hard to find in general and are really hard to find in the East, because there is really no use for them there.

It all depends on what the OP is looking for, but if they really want a four wheel drive camper to explore North and South America, these are mostly built and found in the rockies and west.


If they are going for something like a Tiger, the tax cost won't be their problem...those are expensive. I was referring to a truck camper.


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Problem is that 50 states have 50 different systems.
I can speak to NY.
vehicle sale tax is a one time thing.Based on the retail value of the vehicle.
Sales tax is dependent on the county of residence.4% for state plus an amount of local. Most counties hover around 2 to 4 percent for a total of about 8.
NY requires a safety and emissions inspection once per year. Safety is not a big deal. Brakes suspension, tire,glass,leaks etc.
Registration is easy, Present title and pay the fee. NY was two year registrations. Certainly less than a hundred dollars.
Just go thru any of the regular insurance companies, GEICO, Progressive,ETC. we have liability and collision.
Liability covers your victims.normally to 100k. Collision covers your vehicle as far as replacement. IN NY at least you do not need collision. It is a requirement posed by your lender but not the state. Of course in case of an accident you are on the hook.

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For Georgia you will pay a "sales tax" based on what the county thinks your vehicle is worth. You can get a lower valuation, but that requires getting someone official (repair shop) to write it up and for the county official to approve it, then send it to a higher-up to approve and a week later you get a modified valuation.

In Georgia the steps are: there are no steps. If it is a licensed/titled vehicle then you just pay for the new title and pay your tax. They issue you your license plate right there in person and all is good. You only need to have proof of insurance.
No inspection is necessary in GA.

The "sales tax" is 6% if I remember correctly.


Please can you help us clarify what are the legal steps to put a RV on the road for use?
1)When we buy a RV, does it make a difference if ownership is transferred to a non US citizen?
no

2)What vehicle checks are required for road worthiness?
none.
None in the states you ask about.
All vehicles in Ga in "metro" counties will have to pass an emissions inspection. For OBII (newer than 1995) vehicles the inspection is just to plug into the computer and get a pass or fail. $12-20 for this. Registering in a non-emissions county means you do not need this.
Larger vehicles and diesels are exempt. I think gross vehicle weight over 7,500 lbs is the magic number, so 3/4 ton trucks and almost all Rv motorhomes are exempt.

3) What is the process to register a RV in the US?
same as a car. proof of insurance and money to pay the fees. emissions certificate if applicable.

4) What insurance is required for full time use of a RV in the registered state and other states?
Dont ask-dont tell. There is no such thing as full-time living as far as the State goes. They only issue your license plate/tag.
Your insurance company might want to know, but again, don't tell them anything they do not need to know. If you have an accident and need to claim, then you can just say this is our first day in the RV on this trip. Living in it weeks or months prior has no effect.

5) What is the period we can drive in the US with a U.K. or international driving license?
As long as you are allowed to stay. How long is your visa? Driving is not the issue, being here is. Years, or decades I imagine is the answer.

6) What issues do we need to consider.
Bigger issue is choosing the right vehicle.
This is America, home of the automobile! We drive, everybody has a car. There is no issues with owning other than depreciation. You purchase of a new vehicle will cost you half of its price tag as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot.

I have received conflicting info as to paying property tax in South Carolina.
I have never heard of "property tax" on non property, but am not from SC. Property is generally just land, not things. You will pay a tax one way or the other. 6% is not going to be far off no matter the state.
In Ga you pay 6% once, then about $20-40 each year after that which you own the vehicle.

I think you are stuck in the socialist mentality of the govt owns you, owns everything, and you get to drive their vehicle. This is America. We still have many freedoms, though it is eroding quickly and we might soon the the USSA instead. We are free, do not like govt intrusion and as far as owning a vehicle you only need the register it to drive on public roads.

Also, in Alabama you are not required to even have vehicle insurance, and can drive un-insured in any State. For that reason it is good to have on your insurance policy a "uninsured motorist" coverage, which your policy will have automatically anyway. If you get hit by an uninsured motorist then your insurance will cover the damages.
Get also "towing" coverage.
If you get a new'ish vehicle there are other insurance plans that will cover all repairs, look into that if you will be driving a lot. It might be well worth the investment.
AAA is a company that does towing, and this site is Camping World and also has the same towing insurance and RV coverage.
Normal insurance companies will act like they have never heard of an RV, so it might be worth using the Camping World for coverage.

* This post was edited 05/12/21 11:04am by mr_andyj *

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If you were serious about this, you would look up or contact the licensing agencies and insurance companies.
You’re going to get a bunch of answers that only half apply IMO, because the vast majority of the folks here would be speculating because we’re not foreigners in the US or Canada.

Also, sounds like you don’t know much about RVs. That is as big or bigger a task as the paperwork part.
What you’re looking for (as I read it, self contained, not a trailer, 4wd) are not really mass produced or readily available and those that are, are generally very expensive or a custom build (read homemade). Save for truck campers. That is North America’s mass produced solution for your wants.
Buy a pickup truck, plop any number of campers on it and off ya go.

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