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Cummins12V98

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Posted: 05/13/21 11:42pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

"2018 montana 305RL - 14,270LBS loaded weight, 2395lbs pin weight

19FT crestliner sportfish - 3800LBS loaded weight/trailer, 300LBS tounge weight. on a tandem axle trailer, 23FT overall length

Don't believe the RV pin weight, is this a fact or a guess??? Boat trailer is light on the pin.

That said if you are at or under your RAWR let er rip!!!

Also truck stops truck, RV stops RV and Boat trailer stops Boat trailer. If it does not have brakes it sure should!


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Once I switched to a dually I haven't gone back to a SRW. On windy days it pulls with less drama, those four rear tires stay planted much better. I also like the 4x4 3500 DRW better than my older 2wd DRW, having that 4Low is great for backing into sites, you just idle it right in. It really makes a difference in the rustic State campgrounds without pavement. I mostly pull with my old 2003 Ram 3500 auto trans 4x4 QC with 4.10's now. Good old truck.

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What on earth are you doing that the rear tires don't "stay planted" on an SRW truck?

I own a DRW truck, and it feels more stable around corners at higher speeds because of the wider stance, but the wheels on my Dad's SRW don't come off the ground going around the same corner at the same speed. Mostly there's more body roll because the springs aren't quite as stiff.


Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

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Lantley wrote:

Your right that is a little different scenario.
I'm more or less OK with the SRW for what you are proposing however 18K combined becomes a lot of weight for the SRW to stop....Especially a panic stop.
In the end the main reason to get a dually is for the additional braking power.


Not trying to be difficult, Where is the extra brake power? Brakes are the same?

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Grit dog wrote:

pressure_welder wrote:

In reply to the question about distance, Per year i would say we would be in that 1500KM to 2000KM max range total. We pull two decent hills on the way... were on the prairies so certainly not mountains! but there is one hill that gets me down to 3rd or 2nd gear with the 5.9. WHen i had the 15 - 6.7 with aisin it completely anihilated that hill with the same load.

Its always nice to chat with you guys/gals about this sort of info, you could call the dealership but you would get the "pamhplet answer" i consider myself experienced when it comes to towing, ive always been an overkill kinda mentality. However if an SRW would fit the bill i think that would be my next move.


So you have a stock 3rd Gen that you need to stripe the tires to see if it's moving when pulling hills and you're worried about srw vs drw? Sounds like you're a rolling road block as it is. SRW = no problem if you're holding up traffic every time you hit the road.



lol yes i have a stock 3rd gen with a G56, i am not sure id qualify us as "blocking the road" everytime we hit the highway. Pulling a steep grade any trailer/camper/semi would be doing the same... I dont pull that rig over 100kmh on flat highway anyway, which the 5.9 does well.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

"2018 montana 305RL - 14,270LBS loaded weight, 2395lbs pin weight

19FT crestliner sportfish - 3800LBS loaded weight/trailer, 300LBS tounge weight. on a tandem axle trailer, 23FT overall length

Don't believe the RV pin weight, is this a fact or a guess??? Boat trailer is light on the pin.

That said if you are at or under your RAWR let er rip!!!

Also truck stops truck, RV stops RV and Boat trailer stops Boat trailer. If it does not have brakes it sure should!




Hey there, those stats on the camper are pulled directly from the placard on the camper itself so i imagine they have to be close

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We only drive our dually in the winter seasons for 6 months a year when we tow to AZ and both of us cannot imagine us having a SRW truck. Missed the trip for the 2020 2021 seasons but going south again and will enjoying the fat rear end. chevman


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pressure_welder wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

"2018 montana 305RL - 14,270LBS loaded weight, 2395lbs pin weight

19FT crestliner sportfish - 3800LBS loaded weight/trailer, 300LBS tounge weight. on a tandem axle trailer, 23FT overall length

Don't believe the RV pin weight, is this a fact or a guess??? Boat trailer is light on the pin.

That said if you are at or under your RAWR let er rip!!!

Also truck stops truck, RV stops RV and Boat trailer stops Boat trailer. If it does not have brakes it sure should!




Hey there, those stats on the camper are pulled directly from the placard on the camper itself so i imagine they have to be close




NO they don't!!!

Don't think I have ever seen a published "loaded" pin weight.

20% generally is a minimum and many times 25% loaded pin.

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pitch wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Your right that is a little different scenario.
I'm more or less OK with the SRW for what you are proposing however 18K combined becomes a lot of weight for the SRW to stop....Especially a panic stop.
In the end the main reason to get a dually is for the additional braking power.


Not trying to be difficult, Where is the extra brake power? Brakes are the same?

Contact with the road is not the same. For the same reason a SRW does better in the snow a DRW brakes better. THere is more rubber friction created at the ground.
More importantly, I have driven the same trailer with a dually and a SRW.
The dually brakes much better. Not even close between dually and SRW.
This is my from the drivers seat experience no physics lesson required.


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Lantley

Sorry buddy - seat of pants is way too subjective. I prefer the physics lesson.

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