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Posted: 05/15/21 02:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Our Congrats!! Since for the interim black water is your only issue, just make a temporary conversion to a composting toilet until the septic arrives...

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$30,000 to $50,000? Good grief that is incredible.
I question using a frac tank for extended use. Most I have seen are steel and I think they would eventually rust out.
Are septic aerobic systems approved in the area? That would eliminate all the tractor excavation work for the field lines.
Otherwise I would talk to several septic companies about tank rental and pump out.


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When labor prices in CA are not low- plumbers take advantage of such project.
My friend who made similar project bought Kubota tractor w backhoe and DIY
Still importing river rock made nice dent in his budget.





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Looking for a caretaker soon?

We are getting ready to go cross country from Florida to your general area with our truck camper.

We are considering buying land and doing the same as you are, but I’m unfamiliar with real estate used in this manner and would love to learn the ins and outs to see if we want to buy our own property to use the same way.

We are already completely self sufficient, requiring a trip into town every 3 weeks for groceries and water. We can get 2 weeks out of our standard RV head, but prefer composting heads anyway, so we could go indefinitely without needing any investment in septic while watching the property for you.

We’ve been off grid for decades using solar, propane and a generator if air conditioning is required.

Quiet couple with a cat. No parties. Lots of reading, walks, cooking and working remotely while we travel. We come with our own truck camper.

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Perhaps a clear or semi clear tank, so you can tell when it's full? Dumping into a full tank would be gross when you had to disconnect...


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Just a bit of additional info... The estimated price of a septic system in this area can run between $30k and $50k when all is said and done. Part of the reason for the high cost is we are looking at building a large primary house and then a shop with a secondary living area so the septic will need to be sized quite large. That type of coin just isn't in the cards currently plus we couldn't even start until we have a full site plan figured out and that is going to take a couple of years.

I'm thinking of something more like this. That would give me enough capacity for a week at a time and it could fit right under the trailer making it easy to use. I will just transfer the waste to this when the trailer tanks get full and then when this is full, have a pump out company come and service it. Grey water I will probably just let water some trees nearby an make sure we use appropriate biodegradable soaps and such.

For fresh water we would get a similar tank approved for fresh water. There is possibly a spring on the property (have to confirm) so we might be able to refill from the spring. If that isn't possible, we will have to look at a water delivery service.

I'm looking at spending maybe $1k to $3k to get going. This setup is intended to be temporary, 3 to 5 years tops with us using the trailer maybe for 1 to 2 weeks each of those years.


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HadEnough wrote:

Looking for a caretaker soon?

We are getting ready to go cross country from Florida to your general area with our truck camper.

We are considering buying land and doing the same as you are, but I’m unfamiliar with real estate used in this manner and would love to learn the ins and outs to see if we want to buy our own property to use the same way.

We are already completely self sufficient, requiring a trip into town every 3 weeks for groceries and water. We can get 2 weeks out of our standard RV head, but prefer composting heads anyway, so we could go indefinitely without needing any investment in septic while watching the property for you.

We’ve been off grid for decades using solar, propane and a generator if air conditioning is required.

Quiet couple with a cat. No parties. Lots of reading, walks, cooking and working remotely while we travel. We come with our own truck camper.

Please contact by private message of interested.


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adamis wrote:

Tried sending a Private Message but for some reason the forum kept taking me to a login page instead of the PM page.


I pretty much always have to login to send a PM or read one, fwiw.


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Lwiddis wrote:

No permits needed IMO. Just do it!


Until the pump out company shows up and reports him for an illegal waste tank...


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adamis wrote:

Just a bit of additional info... The estimated price of a septic system in this area can run between $30k and $50k when all is said and done. Part of the reason for the high cost is we are looking at building a large primary house and then a shop with a secondary living area so the septic will need to be sized quite large. That type of coin just isn't in the cards currently plus we couldn't even start until we have a full site plan figured out and that is going to take a couple of years.

I'm thinking of something more like this. That would give me enough capacity for a week at a time and it could fit right under the trailer making it easy to use. I will just transfer the waste to this when the trailer tanks get full and then when this is full, have a pump out company come and service it. Grey water I will probably just let water some trees nearby an make sure we use appropriate biodegradable soaps and such.

For fresh water we would get a similar tank approved for fresh water. There is possibly a spring on the property (have to confirm) so we might be able to refill from the spring. If that isn't possible, we will have to look at a water delivery service.

I'm looking at spending maybe $1k to $3k to get going. This setup is intended to be temporary, 3 to 5 years tops with us using the trailer maybe for 1 to 2 weeks each of those years.


The people to ask are the ones who you will be paying to pump the tank out. I don't expect that you can just call a random service at random and have them pump out a random tank.

First and foremost you have to find a service that will do such a thing. Most likely, they will want it to be THEIR tank or at least something that conforms to local regulations. They will at the very least be familiar with local regulations.

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adamis wrote:

Just a bit of additional info... The estimated price of a septic system in this area can run between $30k and $50k when all is said and done. Part of the reason for the high cost is we are looking at building a large primary house and then a shop with a secondary living area so the septic will need to be sized quite large. That type of coin just isn't in the cards currently plus we couldn't even start until we have a full site plan figured out and that is going to take a couple of years.

I'm thinking of something more like this. That would give me enough capacity for a week at a time and it could fit right under the trailer making it easy to use. I will just transfer the waste to this when the trailer tanks get full and then when this is full, have a pump out company come and service it. Grey water I will probably just let water some trees nearby an make sure we use appropriate biodegradable soaps and such.

For fresh water we would get a similar tank approved for fresh water. There is possibly a spring on the property (have to confirm) so we might be able to refill from the spring. If that isn't possible, we will have to look at a water delivery service.

I'm looking at spending maybe $1k to $3k to get going. This setup is intended to be temporary, 3 to 5 years tops with us using the trailer maybe for 1 to 2 weeks each of those years.

That sound overly high for septic install. It was under $3k for design and permitting of mine. Then it depends on the type of accepted design for cost:

Gravity $5-10k
Two chamber pump $10-15k
Sand trap or mound $20-25k
Aerated or chemically dosed $20-30k


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