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wilber1

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Posted: 05/27/21 06:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

time2roll wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

So what. I have never pulled into a station to buy diesel for my truck and been told I couldn't fuel up because I had the wrong brand of vehicle. Not being able to use all available charging stations is a disincentive to buying an EV no matter how you try to justify it.
How would you ever show up at a Tesla Supercharger if navigating with your Ford Lightning truck?

Likewise if you have a Cybertruck the navigation will take you from Supercharger to Supercharger to your destination.

What do you think happens now if your company credit card is a Chevron branded card? You better navigate between Chevron stations.



I have never been told I couldn’t put diesel in my truck because I was driving the wrong brand of truck. You would find Superchargers the same way as you find other charge points. How do you find non Supercharger charge points in your Tesla? Aren’t they in the database?

You don’t need a Chevron branded card to use Chevron stations and you don’t need a particular brand of vehicle. That’s the whole point.

I’ll stay away from EV’s until they get their act together. PHEV maybe but not a BEV.


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One thing that needs to happen if the EV revolution is going to be successful is all the public battery chargers need to be standardized so any EV brand vehicle can pull up to a battery charger and charge their vehicle like any ICE vehicle can pull up to a gas pump and refuel.


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FishOnOne wrote:

One thing that needs to happen if the EV revolution is going to be successful is all the public battery chargers need to be standardized so any EV brand vehicle can pull up to a battery charger and charge their vehicle like any ICE vehicle can pull up to a gas pump and refuel.
I agree completely with you.

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FishOnOne wrote:

One thing that needs to happen if the EV revolution is going to be successful is all the public battery chargers need to be standardized so any EV brand vehicle can pull up to a battery charger and charge their vehicle like any ICE vehicle can pull up to a gas pump and refuel.

Tesla did ask other automakers to pitch in with $ when they built their SCharger network and none did.

Theres still time for big three to get together and build their own charging stations,but I doubt that will hapen.
Theyre all waitin for someone else to foot the bill imo.

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As far Frod goes I gave up on it about forty years back,too many problems.
Fool me once,never again.

Besides Tesla truck w that rust resistant stainless body is exactly what we need in rust belt.
And buyin online customer direct I can avoid the Stealerships with their markups.

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free radical wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

One thing that needs to happen if the EV revolution is going to be successful is all the public battery chargers need to be standardized so any EV brand vehicle can pull up to a battery charger and charge their vehicle like any ICE vehicle can pull up to a gas pump and refuel.

Tesla did ask other automakers to pitch in with $ when they built their SCharger network and none did.

Theres still time for big three to get together and build their own charging stations,but I doubt that will hapen.
Theyre all waitin for someone else to foot the bill imo.


VW is building Electrify America and Electrify Canada. They are open use. Tesla could make a lot of money selling power from its Superchargers but I guess they aren't interested in making EV's attractive to more people.

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That's great if you have a single family residence that can support the extra amps. There are probably way over a hundred million people in this country that don't live in one. 'Home' charging is also going to a giant issue to EV adoption.


When Model 30 was first announced, I had a chat with a millennial that lived in an apartment in downtown Chicago. He had put a deposit down on a model 30. I asked him where he would park it. In the parking structure where his friends parked their cars. He didn't even have a car. So then I asked him where he was going to charge it. I'll plug it in, why is this so difficult to understand? I was shaking my head

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There's a good podcast on crowdcast.fm that just talks about the F150 Lightning and whether it will pull a trailer. The general gist of it was that the range is 300miles and with a trailer it would be 150miles.


At what speed? MPH is very very critical to range, I've seen charts that show electrons burned up being a factor of the speed to the 4th power. Attached trailer with it's aerodynamic features of a brick will have a huge impact on range too.

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wilber1 wrote:

free radical wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

One thing that needs to happen if the EV revolution is going to be successful is all the public battery chargers need to be standardized so any EV brand vehicle can pull up to a battery charger and charge their vehicle like any ICE vehicle can pull up to a gas pump and refuel.

Tesla did ask other automakers to pitch in with $ when they built their SCharger network and none did.

Theres still time for big three to get together and build their own charging stations,but I doubt that will hapen.
Theyre all waitin for someone else to foot the bill imo.


VW is building Electrify America and Electrify Canada. They are open use. Tesla could make a lot of money selling power from its Superchargers but I guess they aren't interested in making EV's attractive to more people.

My guess is its Tesla way to make people buy only Tesla cars LOL

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Posted: 05/28/21 08:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

free radical wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

free radical wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

One thing that needs to happen if the EV revolution is going to be successful is all the public battery chargers need to be standardized so any EV brand vehicle can pull up to a battery charger and charge their vehicle like any ICE vehicle can pull up to a gas pump and refuel.

Tesla did ask other automakers to pitch in with $ when they built their SCharger network and none did.

Theres still time for big three to get together and build their own charging stations,but I doubt that will hapen.
Theyre all waitin for someone else to foot the bill imo.


VW is building Electrify America and Electrify Canada. They are open use. Tesla could make a lot of money selling power from its Superchargers but I guess they aren't interested in making EV's attractive to more people.

My guess is its Tesla way to make people buy only Tesla cars LOL


Of course but if someone isn't keen on a Tesla it makes them less likely to buy an EV. EV's won't go very far if people can't count on using all the charging facilities like they can gas stations.

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