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JIMNLIN

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Posted: 05/25/21 07:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

At one time torsion axle mfg recommended towing level . Maybe they still do.
Towing nose high can have the last axle on the trailer carrying more weight regardless of suspension type. How much can only be determined by individual axle weights.
A 14.5 gvwr trailer can have over 3000 lbs of hitch weight leaving approx 12k lbs on a tandem axle trailer or around 3000 lbs per tire at the most.

Towing nose high can lead to tire flat spotting on the front axle caused by uneven braking performance between the axles....especially on wet pavement.

For just 250 mile trip and load G 110 psi rated tires pump those on the rear axle to 100+ psi to keep heat down and make that trip.


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Posted: 05/25/21 09:39pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Well I was an idiot for not measuring when I had it out. I store my 5er in my side/back yard and if I pull it out now it will rut my yard real bad until it dries out. Here is a picture I took the other day when I had it out and took it to Blue Beacon to get washed. Not the best but you may be able to get the idea.

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Posted: 05/25/21 09:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Does not look bad from this angle.


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Posted: 05/26/21 06:41am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have the same problem with my truck and fiver. Our local shop tells me that a great deal of the new/newer trucks have the same problem and unless the trailer is so high that it compresses the springs on the back axle, it should be fine. Mine is about 4 inches high on the front compared to the rear and we have checked the axles for higher temps along with the tires and they are the same. On a trip across county in our car a while back you would be very surprised with the amount of nose high 5th wheels that we have seen. I am not saying that it is right but, it almost seems to be the norm with newer trucks.
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i swapped out the 3.5" spacers on the rear of my F350 to the 2016 F250 2" spacers and it leveled out my truck and lowered it approx 2" in the rear, this really helped me level out my trailer. All factory parts FYI.

between the 2" drop on the rear of the truck, the spring perch adjustments on the trailer and going from 225/75R15 to 215/85R16 tires and wheels i was able to level it out properly. My biggest issue was that it is a 1500 half ton towable model so the front section is a bit lower. Been towing with this setup for 40000km's without issue.

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Posted: 05/27/21 07:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Even with the spring/equalizer suspension, towing nose high can still overload the rear axle. Nose low can overload the front axle. It is best to get the trailer as level as possible and still maintain the required 6" clearance with the bed of the truck.

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j2catfish

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Posted: 05/27/21 08:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Some manufactures literature state that towing "slightly nose high" is not a problem. Nowhere have I found what "slightly" means.
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