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Posted: 05/24/21 03:08pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a 2007 Pilgrim 39' 5th wheel (So there is no manufacturer to refer to nor any warranty to worry about) that comes in at 14.5K GVWR. I normally leave this camper at my site which is about 250 miles from home. I bring it home once every couple of years if there is work I need to do to it or accessories to add. I do want to add that I am pretty anal about my maintenance on it.

I just purchased a new to me 2018 F350 as a tow vehicle for this and my cargo trailer. I also installed a new goosebox on the 5er to use the integrated gooseball on the truck. I have pulled it around a bit locally and it pulls great. The problem is the rear end of the truck sits so high that the 5th wheel does tow nose high and there is nothing I can adjust to change that. If I change the position on the goosebox I lose clearance to my bed rails. I can't flip the axles on the 5er and it does have an equiflex on it. I am not really wanting to remove the blocks on the trucks rear springs of the truck for one short trip if I can avoid it. Also I do have some newer Sailun tires on 5er.

My question really is, how bad is this going to be for my upcomming 250 mile trip? I know it puts more strain on the rear tires but just not sure how bad? What can I do to help the problem or should I just go for it and make frequent stops?


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Posted: 05/24/21 03:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Once every couple years? I would not worry about it.

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Posted: 05/24/21 04:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

How high is high? On a level surface measure the frame to ground in the front and rear. Post the results.
Also check if your springs are sagging a bit after all these years. Maybe post some pictures.
Otherwise you need to lift the trailer to match the new truck. Or forgetaboutit.


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Posted: 05/24/21 04:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

250miles, once in a while? Would not be concerned at all unless the nose is so high the back end is dragging [emoticon]


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Posted: 05/24/21 04:44pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Fords have a spacer on some rigs on rear springs that can be removed.


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Posted: 05/24/21 06:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So is truck lifted?


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ramyankee wrote:

So is truck lifted?


No. The front is leveled out but not the rear.

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Posted: 05/24/21 10:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Issues with nose high towing:
*Chucking due to pin weight getting lightened
*Sway due to light pin weight
*higher weight transferred to trailer rear axle/tires...even with equa-flex

2007 vintage.....I would be checking the springs.
Still have a good arch or are they flattening
I would address the springs vs nose high condition unless one of the above items is occurring


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Posted: 05/24/21 11:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With a 14.5k fiver with 22% pin weight you will be averaging 5,655# per axle. With good axle equalization, the differential between front and rear axle weight will be less than you might think. If you have 7k axles and 4,000#+ capacity Sailuns, I would say go for it. You mentioned it tows great which takes care of other concerns.

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Posted: 05/25/21 06:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Unless the trailer has torsion bar axles...no equalizer arm between the axles, very little differences in axle weights.


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