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Huntindog wrote:

rexlion wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Don't be so quick to throw the salesman under the bus. Orders are not placed by the salespeople -- they're placed by management. A little common sense tells you that a salesman doesn't get paid until the vehicle is delivered, so where's his incentive to see that it goes anywhere but to his retail buyer? I notice on this forum that people jump on salesmen a lot, and deem them mostly dishonest. Spending 30 years in the automobile business prior to retiring and going into Real Estate in 2012 showed me otherwise.
What's your impression of realtor honesty? My daughter has a low opinion. She has had bad experience after bad experience with realtors. On her recent home purchase the realtor and inspector seemed to be in cahoots and tried everything possible to get her to sign a new contract with less advantageous terms than the one already in place. And now she's found additional rain damage from the bad roof (it was sold as is) that the inspector didn't "find."
You do realize that a realtor doesn't work for the buyer right?
They work for the seller who pays themfrom the sale proceeds, and signed a contract with them, before any buyer is even on the scene.



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Perhaps you need to get a Realtor involved in your truck order fiasco?

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Huntindog wrote:

rexlion wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Don't be so quick to throw the salesman under the bus. Orders are not placed by the salespeople -- they're placed by management. A little common sense tells you that a salesman doesn't get paid until the vehicle is delivered, so where's his incentive to see that it goes anywhere but to his retail buyer? I notice on this forum that people jump on salesmen a lot, and deem them mostly dishonest. Spending 30 years in the automobile business prior to retiring and going into Real Estate in 2012 showed me otherwise.
What's your impression of realtor honesty? My daughter has a low opinion. She has had bad experience after bad experience with realtors. On her recent home purchase the realtor and inspector seemed to be in cahoots and tried everything possible to get her to sign a new contract with less advantageous terms than the one already in place. And now she's found additional rain damage from the bad roof (it was sold as is) that the inspector didn't "find."
You do realize that a realtor doesn't work for the buyer right?
They work for the seller who pays themfrom the sale proceeds, and signed a contract with them, before any buyer is even on the scene.


You need to educate yourself. Have you ever heard of a "buyer's agent"? A Realtor can act in a capacity for a buyer OR a seller. As a buyer's agent, the Realtor represents the buyer's interests exclusively.

There, your lesson for the day. You're welcome[emoticon]


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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

rexlion wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Don't be so quick to throw the salesman under the bus. Orders are not placed by the salespeople -- they're placed by management. A little common sense tells you that a salesman doesn't get paid until the vehicle is delivered, so where's his incentive to see that it goes anywhere but to his retail buyer? I notice on this forum that people jump on salesmen a lot, and deem them mostly dishonest. Spending 30 years in the automobile business prior to retiring and going into Real Estate in 2012 showed me otherwise.
What's your impression of realtor honesty? My daughter has a low opinion. She has had bad experience after bad experience with realtors. On her recent home purchase the realtor and inspector seemed to be in cahoots and tried everything possible to get her to sign a new contract with less advantageous terms than the one already in place. And now she's found additional rain damage from the bad roof (it was sold as is) that the inspector didn't "find."
You do realize that a realtor doesn't work for the buyer right?
They work for the seller who pays themfrom the sale proceeds, and signed a contract with them, before any buyer is even on the scene.


You need to educate yourself. Have you ever heard of a "buyer's agent"? A Realtor can act in a capacity for a buyer OR a seller. As a buyer's agent, the Realtor represents the buyer's interests exclusively.

There, your lesson for the day. You're welcome[emoticon]



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curt12914 wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

rexlion wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Don't be so quick to throw the salesman under the bus. Orders are not placed by the salespeople -- they're placed by management. A little common sense tells you that a salesman doesn't get paid until the vehicle is delivered, so where's his incentive to see that it goes anywhere but to his retail buyer? I notice on this forum that people jump on salesmen a lot, and deem them mostly dishonest. Spending 30 years in the automobile business prior to retiring and going into Real Estate in 2012 showed me otherwise.
What's your impression of realtor honesty? My daughter has a low opinion. She has had bad experience after bad experience with realtors. On her recent home purchase the realtor and inspector seemed to be in cahoots and tried everything possible to get her to sign a new contract with less advantageous terms than the one already in place. And now she's found additional rain damage from the bad roof (it was sold as is) that the inspector didn't "find."
You do realize that a realtor doesn't work for the buyer right?
They work for the seller who pays themfrom the sale proceeds, and signed a contract with them, before any buyer is even on the scene.


You need to educate yourself. Have you ever heard of a "buyer's agent"? A Realtor can act in a capacity for a buyer OR a seller. As a buyer's agent, the Realtor represents the buyer's interests exclusively.

There, your lesson for the day. You're welcome[emoticon]



... for a price !


No, that's not how it works. When I act as a buyer's agent, the buyer pays me NOTHING. When the sale is made, I get paid at closing as the buyer's agent, typically half of the total commission -- half goes to the seller's agent and half to the buyer's agent -- the total commission amount being paid by the seller.

Whew, I'm doing a lot of educating today. I'm tired! [emoticon]

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Posted: 06/10/21 08:28am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

curt12914 wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

rexlion wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Don't be so quick to throw the salesman under the bus. Orders are not placed by the salespeople -- they're placed by management. A little common sense tells you that a salesman doesn't get paid until the vehicle is delivered, so where's his incentive to see that it goes anywhere but to his retail buyer? I notice on this forum that people jump on salesmen a lot, and deem them mostly dishonest. Spending 30 years in the automobile business prior to retiring and going into Real Estate in 2012 showed me otherwise.
What's your impression of realtor honesty? My daughter has a low opinion. She has had bad experience after bad experience with realtors. On her recent home purchase the realtor and inspector seemed to be in cahoots and tried everything possible to get her to sign a new contract with less advantageous terms than the one already in place. And now she's found additional rain damage from the bad roof (it was sold as is) that the inspector didn't "find."
You do realize that a realtor doesn't work for the buyer right?
They work for the seller who pays themfrom the sale proceeds, and signed a contract with them, before any buyer is even on the scene.


You need to educate yourself. Have you ever heard of a "buyer's agent"? A Realtor can act in a capacity for a buyer OR a seller. As a buyer's agent, the Realtor represents the buyer's interests exclusively.

There, your lesson for the day. You're welcome[emoticon]



... for a price !


No, that's not how it works. When I act as a buyer's agent, the buyer pays me NOTHING. When the sale is made, I get paid at closing as the buyer's agent, typically half of the total commission -- half goes to the seller's agent and half to the buyer's agent -- the total commission amount being paid by the seller.

Whew, I'm doing a lot of educating today. I'm tired! [emoticon]


Are you implying that the buyers agent is in cahoots with the sellers agent to assure that they receive a commission no matter how it affects the buyer? Seems that way.


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Posted: 06/10/21 09:45am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

joshuajim wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

curt12914 wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

rexlion wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Don't be so quick to throw the salesman under the bus. Orders are not placed by the salespeople -- they're placed by management. A little common sense tells you that a salesman doesn't get paid until the vehicle is delivered, so where's his incentive to see that it goes anywhere but to his retail buyer? I notice on this forum that people jump on salesmen a lot, and deem them mostly dishonest. Spending 30 years in the automobile business prior to retiring and going into Real Estate in 2012 showed me otherwise.
What's your impression of realtor honesty? My daughter has a low opinion. She has had bad experience after bad experience with realtors. On her recent home purchase the realtor and inspector seemed to be in cahoots and tried everything possible to get her to sign a new contract with less advantageous terms than the one already in place. And now she's found additional rain damage from the bad roof (it was sold as is) that the inspector didn't "find."
You do realize that a realtor doesn't work for the buyer right?
They work for the seller who pays themfrom the sale proceeds, and signed a contract with them, before any buyer is even on the scene.


You need to educate yourself. Have you ever heard of a "buyer's agent"? A Realtor can act in a capacity for a buyer OR a seller. As a buyer's agent, the Realtor represents the buyer's interests exclusively.

There, your lesson for the day. You're welcome[emoticon]



... for a price !


No, that's not how it works. When I act as a buyer's agent, the buyer pays me NOTHING. When the sale is made, I get paid at closing as the buyer's agent, typically half of the total commission -- half goes to the seller's agent and half to the buyer's agent -- the total commission amount being paid by the seller.

Whew, I'm doing a lot of educating today. I'm tired! [emoticon]


Are you implying that the buyers agent is in cahoots with the sellers agent to assure that they receive a commission no matter how it affects the buyer? Seems that way.


Absolutely not. Many times (if I'm the buyer's agent) I don't even see the sellers agent until closing. You need to realize, not everyone in this life is crooked, and if you approach things looking at it in that way, I must say I feel sorry for you.

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Posted: 06/10/21 01:25pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Start another thread if you guys want to argue about REALTORS!

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Geo*Boy wrote:

Start another thread if you guys want to argue about REALTORS!


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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

rexlion wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Don't be so quick to throw the salesman under the bus. Orders are not placed by the salespeople -- they're placed by management. A little common sense tells you that a salesman doesn't get paid until the vehicle is delivered, so where's his incentive to see that it goes anywhere but to his retail buyer? I notice on this forum that people jump on salesmen a lot, and deem them mostly dishonest. Spending 30 years in the automobile business prior to retiring and going into Real Estate in 2012 showed me otherwise.
What's your impression of realtor honesty? My daughter has a low opinion. She has had bad experience after bad experience with realtors. On her recent home purchase the realtor and inspector seemed to be in cahoots and tried everything possible to get her to sign a new contract with less advantageous terms than the one already in place. And now she's found additional rain damage from the bad roof (it was sold as is) that the inspector didn't "find."


Oh my, so comparing ONE experience of ONE person trumps 30 years of experience with salespeople? Oh well, guess all Realtors are crooked as well, based on your daughter's experience. BTW, there's a Board of Realtors and a Real Estate Commission in every state. Maybe you should suggest she press the "up" button to escalate matters if these issues are that severe. Dishonesty amongst real estate professionals as well as home inspectors is not taken lightly by the governing bodies. But weren't we talking about car salespeople?
Wow, did you misinterpret what I wrote! I asked you, honestly curious, for your opinion based on what you've observed as an insider in the real estate industry. And then I related an anecdote concerning my daughter's (much more limited) view (as an outsider). Sheesh, have a beer and cool off.

* This post was edited 06/10/21 04:27pm by rexlion *


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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

rexlion wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Don't be so quick to throw the salesman under the bus. Orders are not placed by the salespeople -- they're placed by management. A little common sense tells you that a salesman doesn't get paid until the vehicle is delivered, so where's his incentive to see that it goes anywhere but to his retail buyer? I notice on this forum that people jump on salesmen a lot, and deem them mostly dishonest. Spending 30 years in the automobile business prior to retiring and going into Real Estate in 2012 showed me otherwise.
What's your impression of realtor honesty? My daughter has a low opinion. She has had bad experience after bad experience with realtors. On her recent home purchase the realtor and inspector seemed to be in cahoots and tried everything possible to get her to sign a new contract with less advantageous terms than the one already in place. And now she's found additional rain damage from the bad roof (it was sold as is) that the inspector didn't "find."
You do realize that a realtor doesn't work for the buyer right?
They work for the seller who pays themfrom the sale proceeds, and signed a contract with them, before any buyer is even on the scene.


You need to educate yourself. Have you ever heard of a "buyer's agent"? A Realtor can act in a capacity for a buyer OR a seller. As a buyer's agent, the Realtor represents the buyer's interests exclusively.

There, your lesson for the day. You're welcome[emoticon]
I am aware that can happen..... but it is rare.
The reason it is rare is that the buyer would have to pay the realtor a fee upfront... (they like to get paid you know.) And since normal people do not have that kind of coin .. It usually happens with ultra high end properties where everyone has a lot of money.



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