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rjstractor

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Grit Dog wrote:

Yes good points for sure. I still don’t think as a top mfg, I’d kick the “traditional” “big V8” to the curb and only offer 1 “big engine”. If nothing else, even if 99% of the private buyers prefer a more complicated twin turbo V6 (which I don’t think is likely), you are certainly limiting your commercial sales where the “newest and bestest” ( read, more expensive and potentially not as proven) doesn’t win sales.
In 25 years in an industry that buys ALOT of pickup trucks, that industry decidedly does not buy near as many Ecoboost and Turbodiesel trucks as they do good old fashioned old tech, NA V8s.


I think Ford, and now Toyota, sees the writing on the wall in that as internal combustions slowly begin to sunset, direct injected turbo gas engines are replacing more cubic inches as a means to get maximum power and efficiency and lower emissions. Look at Ford's latest hot offerings, the Ranger and Bronco. Any engine type you want as long as it's direct injected with a turbocharger. The Ecoboost in the F150 kicks the snot out of the Coyote V8 in emperical testing and I think Ford sells a lot more of the little boosted V6s than the V8. Even Chrysler is getting on board with that 2.0 turbo in the Jeep line which seems to be a better performing engine than the Pentastar V6. The only code that the small, boosted DI motor hasn't seemed to crack yet is the higher duty cycle HD world, but they are trying like hell, with the Eco V6 now being offered in all models of the Ford Transit. We haven't seen these motors in HD pickups yet, but you know that we will. We just don't have to like it.... [emoticon]

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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

I'm scared!

However, not nearly as scary as the current Chevy HD trucks, which I have deemed the ugliest truck ever produced (I'm working on award for the styling team as we speak [emoticon])


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Would going to the V6 have anything to do with CAFE targets? 1/2 ton trucks are included CAFE targets.

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^ I totally agree with your assessment of the present and future of vehicles. And maybe Yoda won't lose any sales. And they're the second ones to the table with a V8 killer turboed 6, beating the other mfgs to the punch if you don't count the little chevy motor.
But just because it's the future, doesn't mean it's the present and I'd wager a fair sum tht there are still more V8 1/2 tons sold than small turbo engines.
Keep it as an option is all I'm saying.


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Here's some actual Tundras in the wild.

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Here's the Toyota Tundra reveal. No more V8 engines!

3.5 Twin Turbo and a 3.5 Twin Turbo hybrid both backed by a 10 speed.

Enjoy...

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FishOnOne wrote:

Here's the Toyota Tundra reveal. No more V8 engines!

3.5 Twin Turbo and a 3.5 Twin Turbo hybrid both backed by a 10 speed.

Enjoy...

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WOW! And I thought the Chevy Silverado was UGLY!
I think this new Tundra is actually worse.


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FishOnOne wrote:

Here's the Toyota Tundra reveal. No more V8 engines!

3.5 Twin Turbo and a 3.5 Twin Turbo hybrid both backed by a 10 speed.

Enjoy...

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Link 2

Ford, GM and Ram better pay attention, the bar has been raised.

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Personally I have always enjoyed the big three. However two years ago my wife and I purchased a 2019 Toyota Sienna and it has been great! What's important too is the dealership / maintenance has been great to work with. As my F350 has gotten older, and the used market is HOT I am seriously considering selling the F350 and looking into a Tundra.

I don't tow anything heavy anymore, doesn't fit in my garage. Realistically for what I do if the payload numbers on a CrewMax limited are around 1700-ish I may be ordering one of these in the next year or two.


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Here's a video with TFL interviewing the chief engineer which is actually a joy to listen to.

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* This post was edited 09/20/21 05:41pm by FishOnOne *

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