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Grit dog

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Posted: 06/25/21 11:41am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Itakethe5th2011 wrote:

If price is no object, air bags would be the best way to go. The problem with air bags, you will need a air compressor, a controller in the cab, (to adjust the bags hight) and the air bags with mounts. Then you have to hook it all up. I removed my bump stops and installed Timbren Suspension System. It took less than a hour to install. The bottom of the timber sits one inch above the axle so it will not change the ride of my truck. Once I load the 5th wheel, my truck squats a little over a inch. It is more stable side to side and no maintenance required.


You don't "need" anything but a basic airbag kit and there is zero maintenance required. You musnt have had airbags before.
Although a little compressor or even a decent bike pump is handy to air down after you drop the camper for bobtail driving.


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I'd just go with Summo or Timbrens. I prefer Summo's myself.
Both will sit an inch or so above the axle so the unloaded ride remains the same. Unlike bags where you need 5psi in them On a lighter weight 1/2 ton even 5 psi can affect the ride.

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I use Sumo's from etrailer.com which work just like Timbrens on the wifes 1500 chevy 4wd bcrew cab short bed and a 10k car hauler with 9400 lbs on the trailers axles. The loaded trailer adds about 1060-1000 lbs on the back of the truck.
I wouldn't say helper springs can help eliminating in all sway issues but under certain problems they could help.....such as a sag issue.


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The volume of air required in air bags is very , very small . I have used a manual bicycle pump to blow up my bags , takes less than 30 seconds . No need for an installed compressor system at hundreds of dollars . My neibor spent about $500 for his system and is so proud of it , only ran his truck payment up $ 16 per month for seven years !! I need the exercise and the five hundred dollars !

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I'd just let it sag a couple inches and not give it a thought.


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Spend $20 at a CAT scale to adjust that WD for 100% front axle weight restoration (despite what Ford recommends).


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My truck came with airbags and it's nice. Looks to be that quick connect tubing so install and repairs would be easy. Truck is a 2002 so with all that years of slop and free play in parts it's hard to tell if the truck tows different.

Nice to pump them up if getting a heavy load in the back. It's fun hitting the drain and pump button.

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A properly setup WDH will not cause the rear to sag. You need to put more weight on you bars. Once that's done they need to be parallel with the road. Might need to adjust the hitch head angle to accomplish that.

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Slight sag is normal. Most trucks have the rears higher so when loaded they're level or so with the front. You wouldn't want the truck level to start with and load it up. If so the headlights would point up to high.
If it tows fine then leave it.

FWIW the front is more critical. Set the front properly and the rear is what it is. You don't need the rear to be at the OEM height when hitched.

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mkirsch wrote:

Helper springs and timbrens are full time support. Airbags can be easily adjusted for the load, or no load at all.
You are wrong. You have it backwards


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