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AnneM

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cptqueeg wrote:

Washer and dryer seem like a must.


Yup, definitely on our list.

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AnneM wrote:

Thanks to the wonderful members here, we're making progress and now know where we'll buy our 5th wheel and truck [emoticon] but I could really use some help with choosing the right ones.

Who we are (and our plan)

I'm Anne, aged 49. DH is 51. Our son is 17. All three of us will be RV'ing for the first time, going full-time right away in July.

We don't live in the US (coming over to work and manage our company), so we'll be starting from scratch in terms of buying a rig and a towing vehicle. We decided on a 5th wheel because we like the idea of towing stability, combined with the ability to have a truck that we can use to drive around when camping.

We've traveled extensively in the US in the past, so in no rush to get to any particular "sightseeing" spot. We plan on relatively long stays in nice places with good weather and lovely natural settings, where we can work and hike locally. We're thinking of staying for 2-4 weeks in each place and then move on, as the weather changes.

We have a decent budget, I think. Can go up to $120K for a really good rig, and up to $100K for a truck+hitch. I'm hoping that will be enough in today's market. We're ok with buying used or new.

We're flying to Florida next month and plan on going to Tampa to buy. I already checked and dealerships can register our truck and RV for us, not a problem. But we do prefer a dealership for that (rather than buying privately).

Our considerations -
1. Safety.
Since we're new to towing, we want to make sure we get the safest possible setup. From what I've read, that means a heavy-duty truck with towing packages. I'll need some advice as to the actual size and what hitch to choose etc.
2. Having enough space for full-time living, and especially working.
We can do with a small living/cooking area but would want a separate sleeping area for our son. A front living-room that we can convert into his room looks like a good option. Or possibly a toy hauler where we can convert the garage into his room.

Now, I have so many questions and dilemmas. I'm hoping the good people here may be able to offer tips and advice.

1. How much does the size of the 5th wheel really matter? Should we try and squeeze into something smaller than 39' or splurge on a larger 45'? or something in between? DH is concerned with finding sites for large rigs. I'm concerned with the ease of driving/towing. Not sure if the extra feet matter in that respect or not?

2. What about buying "off the catalog" so to speak? I'm thinking we could choose our RV in advance, get someone to do an inspection for us, and have it waiting for us in the dealership when we get there. If we buy from a large place like LazyDays or General RV Center, maybe they can even start working on adjusting the floorplan for our needs. For example, we'll probably want to remove a couch or two and replace them with desks.

3. What would be a good truck for towing? Will an F350 dually be enough? Should we go for an F450 dually? Anything else to keep in mind re the truck?

I've been going over the LazyDays and General RV Center sites for a few days now. So many options and I'm hoping to post a few of them here for feedback.


A F350 Dually will be more than capable for just about any 5th wheel, but the mighty F450 with its wide track front axle allows for a much more turning radius that pays dividends when maneuvering in tight spaces.


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OK, on the bunk length, few will have more than 6'4" for the bunks, some, like the loft on the Cardinal will not have a wall right at both ends, so literally, your feet can hang off the bed. On the twin bed sized ones, you would have to measure actual units, brochures aren't likely to tell you, and trying to measure the floorplans is sketchy because they are not precise on showing wall thicknesses.
As to tank sizes, Grey water (sinks and shower) is normally the limiting one, A navy shower navy shower can use as little as 3 gallons, more if you shampoo long hair. Dishes and the like you can help by washing in a tub outside. You can save even more tank space by washing you outside. solar showers
keep your tank clear for other uses, and if needed specialty tents are available.
Black tank size is the toilet contents, and a rough average is a a little less than a quart per flush, so, 4-6 per gallon, yes some will be less, but you want plenty of water in there for effective draining so plan around 4-6 uses per gallon.

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Check around the area for a Ford dealer that specializes in commercial trucks. They should have more inventory in what you're looking for.
An example:
https://www.chastangford.com/
or: https://www.knappchevrolet.com/


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"the mighty F450 with its wide track front axle allows for a much more turning radius that pays dividends when maneuvering in tight spaces."

I can honestly say I have never thought "gee I wish my truck could turn a tighter radius"


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What do you guys think about this vehicle -
https://www.eleadcrm.com/evo2/fresh/eLead-V45/elead_track/vehicle/vehicledetail.aspx?companyid=19840&vehicleid=49652822

It's an F-350 LT dually, crew cab long bed. However, not diesel. And it says -
Towing Capacity: 12,100 lbs. I was hoping for much higher. Safety is our main concern, so I want a strong truck with a huge cushion where it comes to towing.

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That truck has what matters most .... it is a diesel dually and would do the job. The add has wrong information it says it has a 3.73 axle ratio which is not an option with the Powerstroke. 12,100 is not the towing capacity of that truck .... it will be something over 30000 lbs. If you've got budget for more you'd probably really appreciate all the creature comforts of a Platinum or Limited trim level.

* This post was edited 06/28/21 10:33am by 4x4ord *


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4x4ord wrote:

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That truck has what matters most .... it is a diesel dually and would do the job. It has a 3.73 axle ratio and I think 3.55 would be a little nicer, although not a huge deal. 12,100 is not the towing capacity of that truck .... it will be more like 35000 lbs. If you've got budget for more you'd probably really appreciate all the creature comforts of a Platinum or Limited trim level.


I think it's not diesel though? Maybe that's why the towing capacity is lower?

Originally, I had planned on a Platinum, but it's so hard to find a decent truck at a reasonable price. A year ago, our budget would have covered a new Limited. Now, I'm not sure it'll get us a used Lariat. And I know the truck (and RV too probably) will lose a lot of value within a year or two, so not sure about investing in creature comfort when they're that expensive.

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AnneM wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

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That truck has what matters most .... it is a diesel dually and would do the job. It has a 3.73 axle ratio and I think 3.55 would be a little nicer, although not a huge deal. 12,100 is not the towing capacity of that truck .... it will be more like 35000 lbs. If you've got budget for more you'd probably really appreciate all the creature comforts of a Platinum or Limited trim level.


I think it's not diesel though? Maybe that's why the towing capacity is lower?



Originally, I had planned on a Platinum, but it's so hard to find a decent truck at a reasonable price. A year ago, our budget would have covered a new Limited. Now, I'm not sure it'll get us a used Lariat. And I know the truck (and RV too probably) will lose a lot of value within a year or two, so not sure about investing in creature comfort when they're that expensive.


The add is messed up. It shows a picture of the truck displaying the Powerstroke diesel badging on the side of the truck. I believe the 6.2 engine would give a tow capacity of something like 12000 lbs but I highly doubt that that truck is a 6.2 litre.

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The add is messed up. It shows a picture of the truck displaying the Powerstroke diesel badging on the side of the truck. I believe the 6.2 engine would give a tow capacity of something like 12000 lbs but I highly doubt that that truck is a 6.2 litre.


You're right, I hadn't even noticed the badge there.

Anyway, the truck has already been sold. They're selling like hot buns, it seems.

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