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willald

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Posted: 07/08/21 03:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Well, after toying with the idea for over a year, looking at several models, tons of research and pondering.....We have finally done it. We put down a deposit on what will soon be our new Motorhome - A 2021 Newmar Baystar 3014. Specifically, THIS one at Summit RV in Ashland, KY will be ours here in a few weeks.

Spent all day last Saturday checking the rig out. We took it for a good long test drive - Love the new Ford 7.3L V8, and the handling improvements Ford has done. Tested all the various appliances, crawled under it, up on the roof, looked inside all the cabinets checking out the construction, etc. Spent quite a bit of time just sitting in it, imagining us camping in it to make sure everything about it just fits with us. And, it most certainly does!

Our 2012 Georgetown bunkhouse model has been awesome, and we've made many, many great memories with it over the last 9 years we've had it.
I've learned a ton over the years, too, from this forum as well as just the 'school of hard knocks'. We know now much better what we want and don't want in a coach.

As to the specific reasons why we ultimately decided to trade, and why we chose the Newmar, it comes down to this:

1) Kids just don't camp with us anymore. Between school, jobs, girlfriends, social lives....They just don't have time for camping anymore. That, and they've just about out-grown the bunks - My 20 year old son barely fits in the lower bunk, and its not very comfortable for him. 16 year old daughter can hardly fit in top one. Soo, we no longer need the bunks, and for some time, have wanted something more designed for us, a 'couples' coach, since its going to be just us going forward..

2) Long, crazy story short, but: In the last 3 years, my life has been turned upside down, sideways...you name it. I've divorced once, re-married twice since (married a total of 3 times), widowed once.. Moved 4 times during all of that, too. Both of my first two wives have passed away, too, totally unexpected (and I'm only 52, haha). Now after alllll that, I am finally settled and very, very happily married to my childhood sweetheart, the one I should've married the first time, haha. With all Cheryl (wife) and I have been through in all the years until we found each other again, we really needed a 're-start' as far as camping goes, a coach that we picked out together, that we can start making new memories with and move on from our pasts. Sooo, that is what we are doing.

3) Over the years, I've learned by first hand experience just what so many have talked about on here regarding overall quality of various units, brands. I've spent way too much time and $$ over the years fixing stuff with the Georgetown, and finding cheap, shoddy, thrown-together construction with it in the process. I am done with that, and decided for the next rig, we are going to spend the $$ and find us a quality rig. Hence, the reason we decided to go with a Newmar this time.

4) Original plan was to wait until things change with RV industry, as it is overall, not a good time right now to buy. However, RV dealer made us a very favorable deal in spite of current situation with RV industry. Also, given how scarce these things are becoming due to various supplier issues and ever increasing prices on materials....We were starting to believe that if we didn't move soon, we may not be able to afford (or find) a unit like this in the future. That, and having lost soooo many people close to me over the years (see #2 above), I've learned that none of us are guaranteed tomorrow, and we got to enjoy every day, moment we are given. Soo, we are. [emoticon]

Anyway, we have one last trip planned for the Georgetown, to the mountains later this month. Shortly after that trip, we will trade it in for the Newmar. Already have one trip planned for the Newmar, a 'maiden voyage' to begin shaking out all the new RV quirks that always come up. More on that later.

I'll post updates to this thread after we get the new unit, and how things go. Will try to post pictures if I can find a place to host them that will allow linking to them here. In the meantime, would love to hear from Newmar owners, their insight, experiences?

As always, all comments, suggestions, discussion, etc. around this are welcome [emoticon]

* This post was edited 07/16/21 08:45am by willald *


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We downsized from a 2013 Winnebago 35’ Class A to a 2018 Thor 24’ Class C. We hated the way the F53 drove and the engine noise. The Class C drives much better and we love that we can get into more camping areas, but just as noisy to drive (if not worse). and we miss having the extra seating and a walk around bed, so thinking of trading again for something bigger. We were thinking a small diesel pusher or a Super C, but just now been hearing about the 7.3 motor. Is the 7.3 more quiet than the V10? You mentioned the new F53 is a better driver than your old coach - how so? This info may make us consider a smaller gas Class A or a larger gas Class C.


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Posted: 07/08/21 03:51pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wow! That's a bunch of stuff you've been through - enjoy the new MH!


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Good luck on your “last” trip and all ones with the new RV!


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tommy salmon wrote:

We downsized from a 2013 Winnebago 35’ Class A to a 2018 Thor 24’ Class C. We hated the way the F53 drove and the engine noise. The Class C drives much better and we love that we can get into more camping areas


Yes, thats another reason we went down to a 31' unit that I forgot to mention - We also like the idea of getting into the more remote, smaller camping areas.

We looked at a few Class C units as well, especially since Ford now offers the 7.3 V8 in them as well. However, we just couldn't find one that suited us. That, and we really like the larger cab area that a Class A provides. Really like that large windshield, and the big 'picture' window it provides when parked.

Seriously considered a super C built on the F550 chassis (Thor Magnitude). However, we did not want a diesel, and again, just did not like such a small cab up front.

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..just now been hearing about the 7.3 motor. Is the 7.3 more quiet than the V10?


Yes, noticeably so. It turns less RPMs is part of why. And, when it does get a little louder when you really get on the loud pedal, its a good kind of loud - That throaty, big block v8 growl kind of loud. I like it. [emoticon]

Seems like it is slightly smaller than the V10, too, as the 'doghouse' up front doesn't seem to be as high.

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You mentioned the new F53 is a better driver than your old coach - how so? This info may make us consider a smaller gas Class A or a larger gas Class C.


Ford beefed up the roll bars on the new F53 chassis, as well as some other improvements to the handling. Having driven a 2012 F53 (Georgetown) for many, many years, I can tell you the difference with the new F53 is noticeable. Less body roll, and just seems to handle turns better. It truly feels on the road like not quite as much a big, honkering RV, and more like just a large car. Some of that may be the shorter length of the Newmar, its 31' long vs the 36' unit I've had for several years. Irregardless, the reduced body roll is very noticeable.

Ford definitely closed the gap some with the diesel pusher based Motorhomes, with what they did to the F53 chassis.

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Posted: 07/08/21 06:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Good luck!! It looks like a great MH.

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willaid,

Wow, you've been through A LOT. Glad to see you emerged with your sense of humor intact!!! [emoticon]

The new rig looks nice. I hope you and your new bride make tons of great memories in your new RV.

Best Wishes!!!

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Update: Well, Monday, we did the deal. Drove the Georgetown up to Ashland, Kentucky Sunday, spent the night there, then Monday traded in the Georgetown, and drove off with our new Newmar coach.

Took nearly all day, between going through, testing out, and trying to understand all the systems the Newmar has, signing all the papers, moving all our stuff from the Georgetown over into the Newmar, then finally moving the towbar over and setting up the wiring for towing our car with the Newmar.

This thing drives soooo much nicer than the Georgetown! Engine is much quieter, but as I said before, when it does get loud, it sounds cool, with that big block v8 growl. Just a much more relaxing drive, with how quiet it is and how it doesn't roll and bounce near as much as our Georgetown did. Really enjoy driving it. The shorter length made it very easy to back into the campsite, too.

Going to take a while to get used to everything the Newmar has that we've never had before - Xantrex inverter/converter, residential refrigerator with icemaker, 6 coach/house battery setup, fantastic fans in living room and bathroom that allow for really cool airflow, power management system, holding tank sensors on outside of tank so they don't get dirty and you can actually trust them, much nicer hydraulic jack system (equalizer)that can be controlled via a phone app, power awning that can also be controlled by a phone app....I could go on and on, but we are really, really happy with the new coach, and looking forward to years and years of fun camping trips with it.

When we left the dealership Monday, we went straight to a campground near Georgetown, KY, for a 'shakedown' trip. Will be here in Georgetown all week, and are loving it out here - went to the Ark encounter yesterday. Brother in law and his family live not far from here and will be joining us later this week. We won't head back home until the weekend.

This coach is basically everything I learned over the years that I'd want in the next one. It is a really good fresh start, too, given all that has changed and turned completely upside down with life these last few years, haha!

I have updated signature, but the picture linked to in signature is still to the old rig. Still working on updating that part. Will post pictures, too, once I find a good place/way to host such pictures.

* This post was edited 08/11/21 01:18pm by willald *

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Sounds great - keep us posted on how it goes.

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Wish you all the best. Our new Tiffin should be in any day now. Same engine and chassis as yours but we got the liquid spring option. This is our first MH so nothing to compare it to but everything I’ve heard the ride and driveability rivals the DP’s.


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