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azdryheat

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Posted: 07/09/21 08:59pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

At work we move all travel trailers without using a WD system. Seems if you have enuf truck WD isn't needed.


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Posted: 07/09/21 10:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If I were you, I'd tow it to the other place (or to home) on the ball, although I'd keep the speed down to 50 or so until I knew it felt stable. The brake controller is right at the fingertips if it were to misbehave, but it probably won't because you have enough hitch weight.

The WD hitch will serve as long-term peace of mind, though. And it will reduce bouncing (improve your ride comfort). So I'd still install it, or get it installed.


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Posted: 07/09/21 11:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If your hitch and vehicle are rated at 6250+ with no weight distribution I would give it a go.
Every day you will see a dump truck or other HD vehicle with no W/D and it does fine because it is rated accordingly.

My hitch says 5000 max unless W/D is used.


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Welp, used just the ball mount from the BlueOx, and towed it from the RV mechanic's place back to where we store the TT (about 20 min's away, no highways.) Noticed the ride was "bouncier" than what I'm used to, but nothing too bad. The TV didn't pop up more than 1/4" in front once hitched, so that seems good. But still, I am def going with WD hitch for the ride's sake. The BlueOx my buddy gave to me is missing a few pieces, one of which is needed for functionality ("chain sway return loop", needed for anti-sway) so look like a new hitch is going to get bought.

On the P3 hitch side, WOW -- the upper spindle bearing pairs were all completely shot -- my mechanic removed and disposed of the uppermost pair on each side, but the lower pair were heavily worn, and the congealed grease full of metal filings!

top roller bearing cone assembly worn thru:
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upper spindles with top bearings removed:
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bottom roller bearing wear:
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Can't wait to see the bottom spindles... :-/

And this after 4 years of use with an estimated ~1000mi/yr trip mileage, and hitch covered (along with TT) every year off-season... Doesn't seem right to me that "the best hitch in the world" would fail like this.


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My SIL towed his comparable weight toy hauler no WDH for a few years on two different Ram 2500s, one diesel, now gasser, before just getting a used fifth wheel.

I’d contact the WDH maker and give them a what’s up with this message. 4 years on a WDH should have ZERO probs on the WDH unless you left it in the weather.


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I have towed a 28 foot TT thru the Rockies and mountains of Oregon and California without WDH using a Dodge Ram 2500 V-10 with a rear axle of a 3500 and never any sway problems at all or stopping problems. When I towed same trailer in flatlands of Texas with Dodge Ram 1500 I definitely used and needed the WDH because of passing big rigs.

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time2roll wrote:

If your hitch and vehicle are rated at 6250+ with no weight distribution I would give it a go.
Every day you will see a dump truck or other HD vehicle with no W/D and it does fine because it is rated accordingly.

My hitch says 5000 max unless W/D is used.


hitch receiver also likely has two tongue weight limits. weight carrying and weight distribution. Often the weight carrying limit is in the 500lb range while weight carrying can be in the 1500lb range.
weight carrying puts different loads on the receiver mounts than weight carrying does.


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Sorry but that is complete neglect on the operator.

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As far as moving the trailer from one side of town to the other, certainly no issue. I've been towing trailers for 40 years and I'm completely in the W.D. camp when it comes to towing. And yes, the weight carrying capacity of the receivers on most tow vehicles is "2 sided". 1 with W.D. and 1 without. W.D. hitches do more than just "hold up" the back of the tow vehicle. It spreads the load from the rear axle of the tow vehicle to the the front axle of the tow vehicle and the axle/s on the trailer. This makes life on the road so much better when encountering whoops on the road like bridge approaches etc. I don't really see any combination of conventional tow vehicle and coach that won't benefit from a properly set up and tuned W.D. set up. I believe if you have an F-550 type tow vehicle and have a 28 foot trailer it will benefit.......and as they say...JMHO


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Posted: 07/29/21 03:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm amazed at the amount of rust and overall damage on a six year old hitch, especially at the price the ProPride comes in at...

By comparison, my Reese Dual Cam has almost no signs of its age aside from some surface rust on the bars where the paint chipped away. but it also has no actual moving parts.

For the original question... you should be fine with the shorter wheelbase trailer, but I'd still use it for sway control.



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