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RichB3125

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Posted: 07/12/21 03:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

DO NOT DO THIS.

Most pit toilets do not drain like a septic field. They are actually large tanks in the ground. All the extra water will just sit there and they will then fill up and and become unusable very quickly. You are just adding extra cost and effort for whoever must clean, pump and maintain the toilet.

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Better to go on a fast..

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TURNKEY wrote:

Ok Karen just calm down. It's not like I intend to do this all the time, just once in a great while...and my whole tank is only 25 gallons. I don't have some big 35 foot fiver or monster bus. My black always fills faster than my grey because we are such water misers. Don't judge lest you be judged.


It doesn't matter what size camper you have. It doesn't matter how small your black and gray tanks are.

It is not an acceptable way to empty your tanks while camping.

Get a 10-20 gallon portable black tank. Dump your tank in it, then drive it to the closest dump station. No need to move your camper during a long stay. Use the campground pit toilet as much as possible to slow down the filling of the black tank.

If other campers see you do it, then they will start doing it. It will become a major problem at the campgrounds and the campgrounds will take action. It doesn't matter how small your tank is, the next guy will say "but mine is only 26 gallons. What's another gallon". The guy after that will say "but mine is only 28 gallons". "But mine is only 30 gallons". And so on.

I have a cassette toilet and a 20 gallon gray tank in my trailer. I use the campground facilities as much as possible (nighttime bathroom visits are the main exception). I have a 6gal portable gray tank. I use the cassette and 6gal portable to dump in approved dump locations as needed. It's not that big a deal.


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Posted: 07/12/21 04:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

RichB3126 is correct that open bottomed pit toilets are generally a thing of the past. New ones are just a holding tank pumped by owners. Park and forest service has been changing out or closing old style for many years.


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“ now I want to put what would have gone into the pit toilet a little at a time in all at once...”

Irresponsible behavior to even consider dumping into a pit toilet.


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Basically a concrete septic tank with no outlet. Someone comes around with a septic tank truck and pumps it out and then drives off to a sewer treatment plant or point where it can be emptied into a public sewer.

We had this at Boy Scout camp in the 1960's

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Back in the day (when we were more youthful) and tent camping was our game, I recall trying to use the campground's pit toilet after an RV'er dumped their portable blackwater tote--but couldn't. The fool must have missed the hole as "brown pickle pieces" were everywhere, literally sh*t was on the floor, seat and walls.

When we went from tent to TT, I vowed I would adhere to the "leave no trace" philosophy when dumping my tanks.

* This post was edited 07/13/21 08:45am by Timmo! *

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No Way! Taking a chance a fitting fails or the hose rips? Ugh.

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TURNKEY wrote:

"do the right thing" ?????? I could have just shat in the pit toilet! Same net effect. Geesh!


It's not the same net effect.

When used as intended, a single use may introduce between 2 cups to as much as 1/2 gal of material. The higher end would be a big #2 with a lot of #1.

Your typical RV toilet, will typically utilize several times as much with the flush water, so you are introducing far more volume in a system not designed to accommodate large volumes.

As far as the hose idea, you might get a bit out but the problem is unless you close the valve, most will simply flow back into the tank when you lift. But if you close the valve, it won't flow out of the hose when you lift.

The 5 gal bucket would likely work better but still not a good idea due to overloading the pit toilet.

If you are camping in rustic areas a lot, a composting toilet would be my recommendation (I wouldn't recommend it if you have regular access to a dump station). We had one on our boat. The solids container was good for about a month with 2 people using it full time, so you should be able to pick when to dump it. The liquids had to be dumped every 2-3 days but now you can legitimately claim that it's no worse than simply using the pit toilet as there is no added water. Or it can be dumped in a regular flush toilet. Heck I wouldn't have an issue digging a small hole in sandy soil, dumping the liquid in and covering (remote uninhabited area of course).


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Posted: 07/14/21 08:04am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I do the lift method at home and dump into our outdoor clean out. But a pit toilet is dry waste. I would think unless it is very seldom used it would not be an appropriate type of waste. Taking advantage of park facilities in ways not designed for is misuse. Wouldn’t want to be guilty of that. Not sure how 2 week boondocking folks handle more waste than fits in the black tank. Are the secondary tanks big enough? Where are they stored? I’m guessing they are too heavy to lift when filled.


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