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GrandpaKip

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Posted: 08/23/21 08:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would imagine both would be listed as totaled.
The most interesting thing in the article to me was about the investigator who would recommend denying a claim if either was over weight specs.
For the weight police, I believe this is a justification for bringing weights up, especially for folks just starting out.
I would really be unhappy if that was my Porsche and trailer that was denied coverage.


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The most interesting thing in the article to me was about the investigator who would recommend denying a claim if either was over weight specs.
For the weight police, I believe this is a justification for bringing weights up, especially for folks just starting out.


I'd believe it's just blathering second hand "info", and in no way a legitimate cause for claim denial.
To keep the chicken little's calmed down, think about it. How many "at fault" incidents involve the insured doing something wrong or against the law (which following the door sticker is NOT a law anyways)?
Answer, most all of them and many result in traffic citations to the at-fault party. Does insurance deny if the insured gets cited for failure to yield? Nope.
Which is the same answer in this case.
Will legitimate automobile insurance be denied? Nope.


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That Cayenne tows better than any half-ton. No one mentioned that this area is known for high winds.

Speculation, it's what's for dinner.

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ISBRAM wrote:

Skibane wrote:

"the trailer was a 2019 Heartland Wilderness. The smallest of these is the M-2375BH at 28’ 9”, weighing in at 5,644 pounds with a hitch weight of 690 pounds dry. These numbers are within spec for the Cayenne depending on how the tow vehicle itself was loaded and how the trailer was loaded."

So he assumed the wrecked trailer actually was the smallest Wilderness model, took the trailer manufacturer's word about its weight, and then assumed that it wasn't loaded beyond the Porsche's rated capacity...


I agree, the GVWR of that model is 6900lbs. if it and the Porsche were both loaded it was likely over its rating. Sometimes the tail wags the dog.


I agree, and based on what we see coming into parks, we will see more of this. Starting to see a lot of small to mid sized SUVs pulling fairly long TT, that is not a good combination. The issue is length not weight.


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rhagfo wrote:

Starting to see a lot of small to mid sized SUVs pulling fairly long TT, that is not a good combination. The issue is length not weight.


Maybe it's just me, but on average, trailers seem to be getting longer.

Would be interesting to see some historical data on average trailer length.

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Classic case of trusting the salesman or the brochure, not reading or understanding the small print. Not applying ALL the towing parameters.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that is a poorly matched combo.
Whoever sold that combo or told the buyer it was OK should be ashamed of themselves.


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Of course we don't know the conditions or hazards that exited when this happened. Could have been inevitable with the Porsche or a diesel dually.


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propchef wrote:

That Cayenne tows better than any half-ton. No one mentioned that this area is known for high winds.

Speculation, it's what's for dinner.


No, no it does not. The short wheelbase and lower curb weight means it can not be a better tow vehicle than my crew cab full bed with a 153" wheelbase, that's simply physics.


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time2roll wrote:

Of course we don't know the conditions or hazards that exited when this happened. Could have been inevitable with the Porsche or a diesel dually.


Where’s the fun in that though?
It “had” to be an inexperienced driver with poorly setup weight distribution way over published towing ratings with too short of vehicle that was a hazard just pulling out of the driveway doing 90mph tossing Heineken cans out the window!

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CA Traveler wrote:

The consultant would determine the weights and if over would recommend denying insurance. Speaks for itself.


Absolutely false. Insurance covers accidents. Even if a law was broken. And the manufacturer tow ratings hold no legal standing.


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