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Do Cab&Chassis trucks weigh more than standard DRW trucks (all other things equal)?
I bought a 2021 3500 Chevy DRW cab/chassis gasser, crew cab, 4x4. The stated payload on Chevy's website for an "equivalent" gasser (3500 DRW, crew cab, 4x4) is 6610 lbs, stated GVWR is 14,000lbs.
Since my vehicle is "incomplete", can I assume the same payload (6610 lbs) plus whatever the weight of the "deleted" bed would be on the equivalent 8ft pickup, minus whatever flatbed I installed?
In practical terms, I have a Hillsboro GII steel bed that weighs 1230lbs. If I assume that the 8ft DRW bed weighs 500lbs, can I do 6610lbs + 500 lbs - 1230 lbs = payload of 5880lbs on my cab/chassis equivalent?
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blt2ski
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All things equal, a cab and chassis should wieght less as you note, no bed on it.
BUT with that said, in the past, some C&C frames were a bit thicker in metal. So potential is there to wieght more as it sits.
A nice thing about C&C trucks, is they are easier to get max door sticker GVWR! A proper licensed body manufacture can change tires, springs, etc. Make the gvwr be equal to the axle ratings. A bit harder with a completed rig from the factory.
An 8' 1200 lb bed is on the heavy side even for a flatbed. I also don't know what's included in that wieght. It could be on par for what it is too.
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I bought a 2020 Crew Cab 3500 cab and chassis, LTZ last year. I didn't order it that way, it was an order that was turned down when it arrived and I bought it. I don't know if it was how mine was ordered, but I had a heck of a time getting the back up camera to work. Took the dealer a while to figure it out. The components that make the back up camera work are not there in a cab and Chassis and more importantly the software is not in the computer either. Make sure you work through that now before you order it. Maybe they fixed the issue for the 2021 models but it was a pain to make it happen. You will thank me. I love the truck though.
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enblethen
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Some cab and chassis Have a straight frame, where many pickups come with a curved frame. Straight frames are commonly used for utility beds such as service boxes, manlifts and wreckers. The bare chassis ratings vary as weight limits.
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ogned, yeah, pretty much what you said. If youre not being OCD about a coupl lbs here n there.
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blt2ski wrote:All things equal, a cab and chassis should wieght less as you note, no bed on it.
BUT with that said, in the past, some C&C frames were a bit thicker in metal. So potential is there to wieght more as it sits.
A nice thing about C&C trucks, is they are easier to get max door sticker GVWR! A proper licensed body manufacture can change tires, springs, etc. Make the gvwr be equal to the axle ratings. A bit harder with a completed rig from the factory.
An 8' 1200 lb bed is on the heavy side even for a flatbed. I also don't know what's included in that wieght. It could be on par for what it is too.
Marty
Sorry, I should have been more specific, it is a 9ft4" flatbed, I just confirmed with the manufacturer (Hillsboro) that it does indeed weigh 1230lbs. I took the truck again to the scales this morning and wife and I (270lbs combined) and 63.5 gallons of gas come in at 8800lbs. This gives me a payload of 5200lbs. I cannot reconcile this with advertised payload of 6610lbs as per chevrolet website - if I assume bed+tailgate weight at 500 lbs, this means I should be at 5900lbs, not 5200lbs. Oh well.
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ksss wrote:I bought a 2020 Crew Cab 3500 cab and chassis, LTZ last year. I didn't order it that way, it was an order that was turned down when it arrived and I bought it. I don't know if it was how mine was ordered, but I had a heck of a time getting the back up camera to work. Took the dealer a while to figure it out. The components that make the back up camera work are not there in a cab and Chassis and more importantly the software is not in the computer either. Make sure you work through that now before you order it. Maybe they fixed the issue for the 2021 models but it was a pain to make it happen. You will thank me. I love the truck though.
I took possession of the truck a few months back and I love it. Backup camera works flawlessly ![[emoticon]](https://forums.goodsamclub.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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Which interior PKG did you get? I can see and have heard of 1000 lbs difference between a stripped no added options, vs loaded with ALL options in a crew cab. Their were three of us with 2005 crew cab duallies on here at one time, lightest red a few option in the 71XX relm, my LS 4WD 7400 and iirc a bit over 7600 for a full leather PKG LT version.
If you WB is 6-8" longer than a typical box delete rig, that adds a few lbs for extra framing. Same if over hangs is longer....
68 gal tank vs 35-40 gal tank......all of those add up to less payload, everything else being equal per say.
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blt2ski wrote:Which interior PKG did you get? I can see and have heard of 1000 lbs difference between a stripped no added options, vs loaded with ALL options in a crew cab. Their were three of us with 2005 crew cab duallies on here at one time, lightest red a few option in the 71XX relm, my LS 4WD 7400 and iirc a bit over 7600 for a full leather PKG LT version.
If you WB is 6-8" longer than a typical box delete rig, that adds a few lbs for extra framing. Same if over hangs is longer....
68 gal tank vs 35-40 gal tank......all of those add up to less payload, everything else being equal per say.
Marty
I got the most basic W/T - vinyl seats/floor, it is cab/chassis with CA 60" crew cab 4x4. The odd thing is that an equivalent DRW with a standard 8ft bed lists at 6610lbs payload. I would expect to gain about 500lbs payload by deleting the bed/tailgate (?) and then lose 1230lbs by slapping on my steel flatbed (which manufacturer confirmed weighs 1230lbs). My expectation was to end up at 5880lbs. I got the 23.5 gallon extra tank so that's another 188lbs for gas and probably 40-50 for the tank itself. I have heavy mudflaps on back wheels - another 50 lbs. Finally my wife and I detract 270 lbs combined. Bumper pull WD hitch another 30-40 lbs and then underseat storage under 100 and I am at 5300lbs. As per scale I am at 5200 lbs payload so I cannot account for a 100lbs give or take. I think I am OK with that.
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i have a 2007 f350. it has a different frame as well as several more leafs in the spring pack. with 5000 lbs pinweight it does not touch the helper spring except over bumps. terrible ride but i am in the process of modifications that hopefully will help. crazy about the flatbed.
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