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Bedlam

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Posted: 09/02/21 08:33pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Class 3 DRW trucks have 11k lb rated axles whether from AAM or Dana. Once you get into larger Dana/Splicer models, you get more. The F450 pickup is only Class 3 pickup running more capable axles similar to the chassis cabs.


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Bedlam wrote:

Class 3 DRW trucks have 11k lb rated axles whether from AAM or Dana. Once you get into larger Dana/Splicer models, you get more. The F450 pickup is only Class 3 pickup running more capable axles similar to the chassis cabs.


From what I understand, the rear is at most 4K empty. That leaves 7K.

Are you thinking something different?


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Posted: 09/03/21 07:44am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A large Host or Eagle Cap exceeds 3 tons. Like you posted, close to 2 tons for empty rear axle weight on a DRW. That leaves under 1000 lbs for tongue weight. If you tow a 4-ton trailer (like I do), you can easily have 800-1200 lbs tongue weight and that does not include the leverage of being 8' behind the axle. Mine applies 1000 lbs to the rear axle while not unloading the front axle weight due to my WDH setup.

This is why I don't suggest towing heavy behind a triple slide camper using a Class 3.

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Posted: 09/03/21 07:49pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Welcome back to the TC fold! Those Hosts are nice but huge. Guess if you're downsizing from a 41' FW that'll ease the shock [emoticon] I haven't looked at RAMs since I bought mine in '08 but from what I hear their capacities have significantly increased. Will be interested in reading what folks have to say here although I'm happy with my "little" Bigfoot.


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Thanks guys I felt the factory air bags were not good for a TC. The truck were going to order. 14K and has a 5698 rating for the camper. Also glad I was thinking right on the back step. Good ideal, but sure not with TC frame mount tie downs.
Ordering a 2022 Ram 3500, 14,000 GVWR. HO 6.7 with 3.73 Axle Ratio. It will also have the 50 gallon fuel tank. Feel if I order the High Output cummins. That might make it sell better late on. But sure don't need the extra HP. Feel the 4.10 gears are just not worth it also. Even if I were pulling our 16K 5th wheel with it. Also ordering the tradesman package. Less comfort to go wrong with it then. Enough without all the rest to cause issue's.

As far as the camper, wish we could find someone with a Host to look at in person. I like the dual slide Aspen, but would not pass up a triple slide. Guess if we can't find one to see in person. Will do like we did in 06 or when ever it was. Bought the Okanagan 811SL without seeing one in person. Plus drove to Aurora Co to buy it. With taking a trip after picking it up. 1700 miles on that trip.
Also hauled the OK 811 on a crew cab short bed 2500 for years. I never had one minutes where it was an issue. This 3500 I feel will haul even the triple slide. Now a few years ago, different story. But Ram just keeping going up in Cargo cap and towing weights.
Boat is a 17ft 10inch War Eagle Crappie boat. Might weight 1400 lbs and can move it around by hand. Might tow the jeep with a tow bar, but don't think so.


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Unless they changed the transmission ration, go with the 4.10s. My father has the 2015 HO with 3.73s and find he needs to ride a bit on the faster side to keep the rpms up enough so it doesn't feel like he is lugging the engine. The 4.10s will also help with resell later to someone who wants it as a work truck. Fuel mileage is going to be about the same regardless of the ratio.


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I just bought a new 21 Ram 3500 DRW 4x4 and am looking for a TC. I would love to find a Bigfoot 10.4 but nothing out there.
I was back and forth on the HO and 4:10 also and ended up with a non HO with the 68RFE Tradesman with upgraded radio, manual 4x4 shift, 5th wheel prep and 50 gal fuel tank. For my planned use I think this is the perfect truck.
I towed an 8k lb trailer to the Midwest and plenty of power and the 3:73 are great.
1750 rpm at 70 and 2000 at 80. 13 mpg if I stayed around 65 mph.
Empty at the same speed I’m getting around 16-18mpg.
I wound Not want the 4:10 in this truck and the 68 shifts a lot smoother than the Aisin.
LOVE the 50 gal tank, almost 900 miles not towing.
It does use more DEF than my 17. Towing 1600 miles and running empty for 2300 mi, I used about 8 gal.
Compared to my 04 HO with 4:10, this new truck rides like a Cadillac and much more power and comfort.


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Nice set of Fastguns you found. THose are the vintage style - the original design. I have them too. They are nicer than the new style.


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FireGuard wrote:

I just bought a new 21 Ram 3500 DRW 4x4 and am looking for a TC. I would love to find a Bigfoot 10.4 but nothing out there.
I was back and forth on the HO and 4:10 also and ended up with a non HO with the 68RFE Tradesman with upgraded radio, manual 4x4 shift, 5th wheel prep and 50 gal fuel tank. For my planned use I think this is the perfect truck.
I towed an 8k lb trailer to the Midwest and plenty of power and the 3:73 are great.
1750 rpm at 70 and 2000 at 80. 13 mpg if I stayed around 65 mph.
Empty at the same speed I’m getting around 16-18mpg.
I wound Not want the 4:10 in this truck and the 68 shifts a lot smoother than the Aisin.
LOVE the 50 gal tank, almost 900 miles not towing.
It does use more DEF than my 17. Towing 1600 miles and running empty for 2300 mi, I used about 8 gal.
Compared to my 04 HO with 4:10, this new truck rides like a Cadillac and much more power and comfort.


Sounds like your enjoying that truck. We may get ours ordered before the end of the month. Almost have it nailed down to what is a must have. Over what I would like to have.
Climate control for sure, shes cold I'm hot. Then I cold and shes hot. So Dual Climate is a must. 50 gallon tank for sure cheaper then putting one in after buying. Will get the full console also. Along with 5th wheel prep. Then bed lights also for the price I can't add them. Standard Trans = way more miles on the trans. Where the Asian you change fluid every 30K. 3.73 also for me.
Then ordering White and standard wheels. Like the polished wheels, but can buy pull offs and get what tires I want. Also Getting remote start for sure. Sad we get spoiled and have to have so much in a truck. Used to be get one with power windows and that's it. Also going with the Big Horn package. Keep trying to talk myself into the work truck. But I keep trucks around 10 years. So better add a few items I want. May not live to see a new truck again. If I could be that blessed.

Man I give out, we went fishing for 2 hours this morning. Wife and I caught around 60 lbs of catfish in 2 hours.

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deltabravo wrote:

Nice set of Fastguns you found. THose are the vintage style - the original design. I have them too. They are nicer than the new style.


Thanks it was hard to pass up this deal. Plus now we have the fast guns. Have to buy a Truck camper to go with them[emoticon]. He had a newer set for the same $$. But they were the painted one Felt these were the best deal for the price.

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