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schlep1967

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Posted: 10/05/21 08:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JRscooby wrote:

schlep1967 wrote:

If it's like mine there should be 2 wire nuts about 6 inches from the motor. Take those off and separate the wires. Hook your jumper cables directly to those wires and your trailer battery.


Warning! Yes, it will make a spark. Better to hook the cables to the battery, then to the wires. It will still spark, but the spark not be right at the battery. Much less chance of a explosion.

Thanks for the clarification. I also connect to the wires second.


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Posted: 10/05/21 08:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I vote for the lube job. It sure helped mine but I put more than two pumps in.

Also The top cover can be popped off and some gear oil added there to get things started faster. It just seeps out the bottom and helps with the rust on the feet. [emoticon]

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Update
Well when I went to storage yesterday I went to poke around and check batteries and all with my eyes and not go by the indicator lights. I had some green crud on one of the posts. Trailer would not go up at all when I turned the battery disconnect on.

Pulled both batteries out ( trojan t 105 about 3 years old and brought them home. Checked water levels and noted the water was below the plates so added distilled to all 3 caps in each battery. Cleaned everything up and put them on a trickle charge. This morning they read 12.69 V ( but this is while they were hooked up) so they were not charged and lacking some water.
I hope this is my issue!!!
I will check after work today and that will have given them 24 hours and check strength. I think it should be around 13.4??????

Thought about running the jumpers to the motor like suggested to check for fun but delt with this first. That is how I run my genny during the winter months when going over to check things and exercise the genset.

I did see dirt piled on the tops of the legs so these will need me tending to them when I tow it home again.

Of note. My rig is a 50 amp service and I rarely ever find 50 amp. It is usually only 30 and works for a few days but I know some of my electrical draws are not on the legs of the 30 amp. Example is, when I am plugged to shore power 30 amp my batteries are not charging as per the indicator lights.

Weird but I did not wire the unit. My electric option for hot water tank does not work on the 30 amp either as well as many of my receptacles .
I may have to look into this .

I would have thought that running the genset would have lifted the trailer but in this case no with the batteries in the condition they were showing. The battery light indicators in the trailer were not the tell all.

Thanks all for replies. Again I hope this is the issue!!!!

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Posted: 10/06/21 09:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

One other consideration is the switch. I have a four point leveler and the stabilizers are run by front, rear, left, right controls. Sometimes the switch does not make good contact. I should probably replace the control panel, but so far I have been able to press the buttons hard enough to make it work.


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Posted: 10/06/21 02:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

walker111 wrote:

Update

Pulled both batteries out ( trojan t 105 about 3 years old and brought them home. Checked water levels and noted the water was below the plates so added distilled to all 3 caps in each battery. Cleaned everything up and put them on a trickle charge. This morning they read 12.69 V ( but this is while they were hooked up) so they were not charged and lacking some water.
I hope this is my issue!!!
I will check after work today and that will have given them 24 hours and check strength. I think it should be around 13.4??????

Thought about running the jumpers to the motor like suggested to check for fun but delt with this first. That is how I run my genny during the winter months when going over to check things and exercise the genset.

I did see dirt piled on the tops of the legs so these will need me tending to them when I tow it home again.

Of note. My rig is a 50 amp service and I rarely ever find 50 amp. It is usually only 30 and works for a few days but I know some of my electrical draws are not on the legs of the 30 amp. Example is, when I am plugged to shore power 30 amp my batteries are not charging as per the indicator lights.

Weird but I did not wire the unit. My electric option for hot water tank does not work on the 30 amp either as well as many of my receptacles .
I may have to look into this .

I would have thought that running the genset would have lifted the trailer but in this case no with the batteries in the condition they were showing. The battery light indicators in the trailer were not the tell all.

Thanks all for replies. Again I hope this is the issue!!!!


There are several things wrong with your camper and your assumptions.

The least of which being dirt on the landing gear feet (whatever taht has to do with this?).

1. Depending how low the batteries were on water, they might be fried.
2. If plugged into any working charger and you check voltage at the terminals, it should be approximately the input voltage of the charger, which for smart chargers is about 13.2V on float mode and more the rest of the time. If you're reading 12.69V while charging, something is wrong.
3. Can't check battery charge level by voltage until the battery is at rest for a bit. IE charger unhooked or loads shut off.
4. If all your circuits aren't working, even plugged into a 30A service with an adapter, then your adapter is not working right or something downstream of that is wrong. 50A services are 2 - 120V services, essentially in parallel, not a 240V service. (Most RVs. I think some do have a bridged 240V circuit for maybe a clothes dryer or similar. High end units likely)
5. How the ____ do you charge your batteries if the converter doesnt charge them when plugged in to shore power (30A) while camping.

In short, your batteries definitely needed charged, if they are still viable even and not destroyed.
And you have other electrical issues with the camper.


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Posted: 10/07/21 08:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit Dog. Where did I mention dirt on landing feet as an issue???? Better read that one again!
Batteries are showing charge level rested at 12.96 in series.

Some issues within camper are not assumptions. They are facts. I do not get power to a lot of receptacles, water heater, or charging component for battery bank while on 30 amp. I actually get these on 15 and 20 amp. With 50 amp service, which I never seem to find , all works as it should. I never stated ALL circuits.

I still thank you for input!

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Posted: 10/07/21 03:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

3-5 seconds then stop.. pause and run it another 3-5 seconds pause and continue till it's fully retracted.

This indicates somethign
First: If for any reason the landing gear got "Torqued" (Bent twisted) and is jamming it's placing excessive drag on the motor and causing the motor to overheat or the thermal self-resetting breaker to pop or the control to sense "Too much current" and shut down (I an trying to cover every variation on how these systems work here)

Also LUBRICATION it may just need lubrication.

With shore power present (or a portable generator) and the Trailer supported by other reliable means (Attached to ye old tow vehicle?) run it up and down and LUBRICATE a few times.. Also read the fine manual on lubrication.

IF this works, great

There are bearngs and thigs in the motor and gear box that can "Gum up"
That costs money.


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Thanks Wa8 for reply. Yeah, the 3-5 sec and shut off is strange. The motor is barely audible during this.
The legs are not bent but could use lube for sure. I will have to haul it home to work at it but Thanksgiving weekend up here and tearing out kitchen tiles so maybe next week.
Appreciate your positive feedback!

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