Tires again

[klr650goldwing]

Today, while driving on a freeway, we blew out aST235/80R16 with a G load rating. This tire was mounted on a 16,000 lb 5er. The tire brand was Samson and yes, that tire is mfg. in China. We will be purchasing 4 new tires in the next day or two. Can you recommend a better tire than the one that blew? We don't mind paying for quality, in fact we would much rather pay for quality than experience again what happened today.

[obie311]

klr650goldwing wrote:
We currently have Samson tires on our trailer that could be up to 7 years old. The 5er is a 2014, we bought it in 2018 so we don't know for sure how old the tires are. We have traveled about 15,000 miles with these tires. I have always kept the tires aired up to 110 lbs. Now I'm wondering if we should just put the same tires back on. The blow out did put a hole in the sidewall about the diameter of a baseball. But is it possible that these current tires are at the end of their useful life span?

Love your taste in vehicles BTW. My Arctic Fox is a 2014 and the DOT markings showed the tires were made in 2013 and 2014. With a 16,600 GVWR and a cross country trip looming, I didn't want to chance the old tires even though there was plenty of tread and no visible sidewall cracking.

In the aviation world, there's components that are hour limited, cycle limited (ie take-offs and landings) and time limited. I tend to consider RV tires as time limited items. They would have probably done OK but it was worth the $800 I spent for Sailuns for piece of mind.

On the bright side, I sold the set of old Goodyear G614's to a local guy on Craigslist for farm use for $200.

[fj12ryder]

The age of the tires can be determined by the DOT code on the sidewall. Four numbers in a oval, the first two numbers are the week and the second two are the year. If they are OEM tires, you're likely living on borrowed time, although our Sailun tires on the last trailer were 7 years old when we sold it.

[Thermoguy]

klr650goldwing wrote:
We currently have Samson tires on our trailer that could be up to 7 years old. The 5er is a 2014, we bought it in 2018 so we don't know for sure how old the tires are. We have traveled about 15,000 miles with these tires. I have always kept the tires aired up to 110 lbs. Now I'm wondering if we should just put the same tires back on. The blow out did put a hole in the sidewall about the diameter of a baseball. But is it possible that these current tires are at the end of their useful life span?

Tires have a date code - Look that up and decide. Most think about 5 years is all a trailer tire can handle. A cheaper brand, less than that. Really consider what tires you put on it. A quality brand is not much more expensive than a non quality brand. But having the correct weight rating is the most important and some go up a rating just to be safe.

[klr650goldwing]

We currently have Samson tires on our trailer that could be up to 7 years old. The 5er is a 2014, we bought it in 2018 so we don't know for sure how old the tires are. We have traveled about 15,000 miles with these tires. I have always kept the tires aired up to 110 lbs. Now I'm wondering if we should just put the same tires back on. The blow out did put a hole in the sidewall about the diameter of a baseball. But is it possible that these current tires are at the end of their useful life span?

[Cummins12V98]

Michelle.S wrote:
Well I've had a Blowout on a GY G114 "H" 17.5" tire at 4 years and 40K miles then switched to Sailun "H" 17.5 stamped "Made in China" and with 2 years and 15K miles lost an inner section of the tread, but never lost air. Bought a replacement thru Wally World because I needed a spare. Generated a warranty with Tredit the distributor and received a check that more than covered the cost of the Wally World replacement.
So will be watching them closely, and don't anyone suggest GY Endurance because we're pushing 20K on the fifth wheel.

Why would anyone push a tire that can’t carry the weight?

[Michelle_S]

Well I've had a Blowout on a GY G114 "H" 17.5" tire at 4 years and 40K miles then switched to Sailun "H" 17.5 stamped "Made in China" and with 2 years and 15K miles lost an inner section of the tread, but never lost air. Bought a replacement thru Wally World because I needed a spare. Generated a warranty with Tredit the distributor and received a check that more than covered the cost of the Wally World replacement.
So will be watching them closely, and don't anyone suggest GY Endurance because we're pushing 20K on the fifth wheel.

[Cummins12V98]

laknox wrote:
I ended up with Endurance as I couldn't get Carlisles in time for a trip. I will tell you that they have a =lot= less tread than most other STs that I've seen. Surprised heck out of me, for sure. I sure hope I don't have to tow in heavy rain as the siping is =shallow=.

Lyle

1/4" or 8/32" tread depth. Towed my boat in wet conditions in NW WA with no issues. Have 4 years and over 20k.

[laknox]

I ended up with Endurance as I couldn't get Carlisles in time for a trip. I will tell you that they have a =lot= less tread than most other STs that I've seen. Surprised heck out of me, for sure. I sure hope I don't have to tow in heavy rain as the siping is =shallow=.

Lyle

[Cummins12V98]

"Couple reports on the Montana forum with the Vietnam made Sailuns, looks like a bad batch, they had about the same date codes . No blowouts ,what I saw was partial tread separation ."

Sounds like the GY 17.5 "H"



"12v98, might have to consider those Endurance next time if those Sailuns continue with issues ,or make sure they are made in China ."

I have been running the Endurance on my Boat Trailer with ZERO issues towing at 70mph all Summer long for 4 years now. Probably have 20k or more and have around 1/8" tread left.

[Cummins12V98]

2012Coleman wrote:
I considered Sailuns, but they were overkill for my GVWR so I went with Endurance. Very well made tire - heavy. Didn't loose any psi over our summer travels.

Good call on the GY's. I never seem to loose air on mine or much on any of my other tires. Is that because of the tires or just better installation methods?

[cummins2014]

laknox wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Just a heads-up about the Sailun: they are now made in Vietnam, and there have been several instances of complete tread separation. This was on tires made earlier this year in Vietnam. Dunno if it's a continuing problem. I loved the Sailun tires on my Fuzion, six years old and still going strong when I sold the trailer. Now I'm having second thoughts, but won't need tires for another year or so, hopefully anyway. There may be more news by then.

Hadn't heard this. Will keep my ears/eyes open for more info.

FWIW, we have Provider G's on our 30' GN triple axle trailer. They're working well, so far.

Lyle

Couple reports on the Montana forum with the Vietnam made Sailuns, looks like a bad batch, they had about the same date codes . No blowouts ,what I saw was partial tread separation .

12v98, might have to consider those Endurance next time if those Sailuns continue with issues ,or make sure they are made in China . :B

[Thermoguy]

There are good Chinese tires and bad Chinese tires. Carlisle and Hercules are good Chinese brands - probably better for your spare than your main tires. If you want a tire that you can trust driving down the road, for your trailer weight, buy the G rated GoodYear or Sailun tire as many have expressed very good results with both. I have heard that Walmart usually has good prices on the Sailun tires, I had priced them at a "tire" shop and they were way over priced, they wanted me to buy their Chinese brand tire... I have GoodYear tires on my 5th wheel, but my weights are not as high as yours. If I needed G rated, I would have purchased Sailun tires.

[2012Coleman]

I considered Sailuns, but they were overkill for my GVWR so I went with Endurance. Very well made tire - heavy. Didn't loose any psi over our summer travels.

[TxGearhead]

I had Carlisles on Montana HC with no issues.
Up sized to a pre owned 18,000 GVW landmark that had Sailuns. Had one blow out in nowhere New Mexico. Replaced with Hercules Strong Guard. Have maybe 8,000 miles on them. No problems so far.