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Mich upnorth

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Posted: 10/15/21 06:49pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What I do is put a piece of tape on the dash sensor and turn the lights on automatic, that way headlights and taillights are on all the time.


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Posted: 10/15/21 06:51pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

For local 2 lanes highways I don't like DRLs especially when looking around a slower car trying to see where a on coming vehicle is to make a safe pass. On coming head lites on bright on a flat stretch of highway its hard to tell if that vehicle is 100 yards or two miles down the road.
Now the automatic DRL to turn the lights on at dusk is fine as we all can forget to turn the lights on while on the road.


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I have been driving with my headlights on at all times about 40 years ago. I had a 1982 blue Toyota pickup truck that must have been invisible because people kept pulling out from side roads or to pass when I was coming at them. After pulling off the road a few times to avoid a head on collision, I always drove with my headlights on.
When riding my motorcycle, I have a headlight modulator that flashes my headlight every couple of seconds to make me and the bike stand out. I rarely have anyone cross my lane or pull out in front of me now that I have that on the bike. They are legal in all 50 states under a federal motor vehicle ruling. Some people may hate them, but, they keep me alive.


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tomman58 wrote:

Police and legislatures need to make it mandatory for cars to use their running lights all of the time in the interest of safety.


There is absolutely no limit on the number of laws which could be passed in the name of "safety".

Truly, it is an infinite number.

We really need to make it mandatory for people to:

1. Rid themselves of the delusion that living in perfect safety is possible (or even desirable), and

2. Stop looking to our government to solve every little problem for us.

Life isn't perfectly safe.

Put on your adult pants, and deal with it.

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I am not a fan of big government...or of even bigger government.

Plenty of safety rules out there, most are usually overlapping existing rules any ways.

Wearing helmets while driving a car or truck could reduce motor vehicle accident deaths.


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Posted: 10/16/21 06:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So I am travelling in southern California one time in the winter.

Over a little pass I go and it is raining on the other side toward the coast.

All the vehicles coming at me have their headlights on in the rain.


I am thinking gee these California drivers are smart not like the cool kids back home that disable their daytime running lights so you can't see them in the rain - these people turn on their headlights in the rain.

I am busy telling my CA people how smart these drivers are and B pipes up "it's the law..."

I was immediately mad about it because it is mandated.

* This post was edited 10/16/21 06:59am by noteven *

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tomman58 wrote:

Police and legislatures need to make it mandatory for cars to use their running lights all of the time in the interest of safety.


If "everyone" has "lights on" in the daylight, over time it becomes nothing more than "background noise" which is no longer noticed and/or completely ignored.

Daylight lights also does nothing for anyone when you are dealing with rolling hills or sharp curves or other obstructions that obstruct line of vision.

Perhaps we should all wear bubble wrap?

Driving is a privileged, takes considerable though for ones own safety, you can't mandate safety to those who ignore basic driving skills like not taking high risk maneuvers.

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But the OP is basically complaining about his poor eyesight and people who pass him and are cutting it close with oncoming vehicles. (Which they most probably can see, but out of frustration from following someone going ____mph for miles, decide to go for the pass at first opportunity.)
OP, how fast are you driving compared to the speed limit on these 2 lane roads that you claim to be run off the road on?

I can say confidently that if I’m stuck behind some turtle doing 56mph on a desolate road in the middle of bfe, I am itching to pass at first opportunity. I don’t have the luxury of driving around the country at 54mph everywhere taking in the sights and smells.
Those that think they own the road and that those who don’t agree with their laxidasical pace are somehow inherently unsafe or too much in a hurry, ARE the problem!


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noteven wrote:


So in rolling hills / desert dips and curves country, is that shape that shows up a couple hilltops ahead - is that a vehicle you will meet in a few seconds, or is it a feature of landscape or trees or cows? These objects don't have lights on...

You know when I drive in the USA coming from a daytime running lights country it takes a while to get used to no running lights vehicles again and how invisible they can be against certain backdrops.

It's ok, that's the law of the land. But it is sure easier to see a running lights vehicle.

No need for bubble wrap it does not make your vehicle more visible to other road users [emoticon]


Once again, if EVERY vehicle had "lights on" and "everyone" gets accustomed to seeing vehicle after vehicle with lights on, it simply "blends" into the landscape and will be ignored by your brain.

Your brain does this automatically, don't see how you can "legislate" ones brain into verifying every single object within view as a automobile or not a automobile especially when it becomes common or normal.

If one cannot identify the shape of a big shiny object coming towards you verses a small fuzzy animal shape object then one is not paying attention to the job at hand.

DLRs are a misnomer and for some a very false "comfort". But in reality, the only time they may play a safety role is during dusk (sunset) and dawn (sunrise) where there is just enough light to drive without headlights on and perhaps inclement weather events like fog/heavy rain (but in reality one should be turning on their headlights at dusk and dawn and inclement weather and not relying on the weaker DLRs).

The real problem is folks ignoring good driving practices.

Things like driving "defensive" which means driving safely for OTHERS.

That means putting down the cell phones, stop texting, don't fiddle with the entertainment system, keeping your eyes on the road, checking conditions and traffic in front of you.

The biggest safety issue is folks completely ignoring one simple object.. The road center lines, here in the States, secondary roads wide enough to meet width standards will have acceptable "passing zones" clearly marked via the Yellow center lines.. Those zones are only marked when visibility is acceptable to allow one to pass WITH CARE. The visibility standards used takes into account posted speeds and how long of a clear visible path there is. Many drivers now days ignore the no passing zones lines intentionally and no amount of flashy bling lights can fix that.

I live by a intersection which has flashing red (stop) on one side and flashing yellow (caution) on the other side. Plus the stop sides have nice big red stop signs with red flashing LEDs.

Hasn't stopped folks from driving through the blinking yellow lights at speeds in excess of 20 MPH above the speed limit.. Hasn't stopped folks on the flashing red (Stop) side from blowing through the intersection without ever touching the brakes.

More accidents have happened at that spot than I care to count, quite a few fatal deaths on top of that.. Worst one was a trucker that barreled into the intersection from the blinking red side, hit a mini van, killing the entire family inside the van..

Mandating DLRs won't fix that, as that is plain ignoring rules and laws of driving..

Driving on public roads is a privilege, not a right.

As a privilege it requires not only your full time attention and adherence to the rules of the road but other drivers also.. No amount of lights hung on the front of a vehicle can replace lack of attention or lack of following the rules of the road.

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