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Cummins12V98

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What does this have to do with the role of the Federal Government???


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valhalla360 wrote:

propchef wrote:

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time2roll wrote:

Impossible according to many many posts right here on RV.net claiming a small substation would need to be installed near each campground.
Or maybe this stuff is not all that difficult?


Or maybe they are using govt funding to install the substation.

Lots of money being thrown around with the new infrastructure bill.



What? lol


OK, I'll spell it out for you.

New Infrastructure Bill includes $7.5 Billion (with a "B") for EV charging infrastructure.

KOA is a large corporation with lobbyists, lawyers, other staff to facilitate capturing a nice chunk of that money.

Existing campgrounds tend to have substandard electrical systems because most were built back in the days when RVs were 15 or 30amp @120v and now a large percentage of RVs are 50amp @ 240v. This gives them a way to capture govt money to upgrade their electrical system.

Of course, nominally it's for EV chargers but by default, they will wind up with an improved system for the RVs.


No need to spell anything out, but thank you for your response. All of this is correct. I was questioning the tossing money around comment.

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I hope the costs are not passed on to all sites. I'd hate to pay a higher camping fee to pay for the EV chargers I am not using.


You already are. BurgerMaster drive-in in WA offers free plug in if driving up to eat. WHY should I subsidize someones driving choice.


You're free to eat elsewhere. We've had "free" wifi in restaurants and other places forever, do you also avoid those places so you're not paying for someone else to use the wifi?

The draw on an EV is minimal, information that is easily available. A 2-AC TT or 5er will pull MUCH more. Why should I "subsidize" someone who sets up in a campground, only to stay inside with the AC on watching TV?

MOST charging stations need an account of some kind to access. If the campground offers it as an amenity, like wifi and 50 amp service, that's the owners choice. It's your choice whether or not to stay there.

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propchef wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

1320Fastback wrote:

I hope the costs are not passed on to all sites. I'd hate to pay a higher camping fee to pay for the EV chargers I am not using.


You already are. BurgerMaster drive-in in WA offers free plug in if driving up to eat. WHY should I subsidize someones driving choice.


You're free to eat elsewhere. We've had "free" wifi in restaurants and other places forever, do you also avoid those places so you're not paying for someone else to use the wifi?

The draw on an EV is minimal, information that is easily available. A 2-AC TT or 5er will pull MUCH more. Why should I "subsidize" someone who sets up in a campground, only to stay inside with the AC on watching TV?

MOST charging stations need an account of some kind to access. If the campground offers it as an amenity, like wifi and 50 amp service, that's the owners choice. It's your choice whether or not to stay there.


Just a bit of a difference!!! WiFi is there for everyone to use. I sure as HE!! can't fill my Diesel truck with power at the Burger Joint.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

propchef wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

1320Fastback wrote:

I hope the costs are not passed on to all sites. I'd hate to pay a higher camping fee to pay for the EV chargers I am not using.


You already are. BurgerMaster drive-in in WA offers free plug in if driving up to eat. WHY should I subsidize someones driving choice.


You're free to eat elsewhere. We've had "free" wifi in restaurants and other places forever, do you also avoid those places so you're not paying for someone else to use the wifi?

The draw on an EV is minimal, information that is easily available. A 2-AC TT or 5er will pull MUCH more. Why should I "subsidize" someone who sets up in a campground, only to stay inside with the AC on watching TV?

MOST charging stations need an account of some kind to access. If the campground offers it as an amenity, like wifi and 50 amp service, that's the owners choice. It's your choice whether or not to stay there.


Just a bit of a difference!!! WiFi is there for everyone to use. I sure as HE!! can't fill my Diesel truck with power at the Burger Joint.

Oh Brother next your going to complain about the CG swimming pool you don't swim in[emoticon].


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Posted: 12/14/21 02:33pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm sure everyone is just as tired of threads getting shut down as I am. Can we keep the politics and the vitriol out of this discussion?

And for Pete's sake, don't forget that Santa is watching y'all!



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Michelle.S wrote:

I think we're all going to pay for this stuff even if we never use it. Just like paying School taxes even if you don't have kids, everybody pays.


Have been short on paying for education for a long time. Most of the world, if they can afford to, are more worried about passing on a planet that can't be enjoyed than passing on public debt.

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Michelle.S wrote:

Just like paying School taxes even if you don't have kids, everybody pays.

Exactly. I can't remember the last time I used a nuclear submarine.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

WHY should I subsidize someones driving choice.

Said the guy on a horse while a freeway went up near him.

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Oh Brother next your going to complain about the CG swimming pool you don't swim in[emoticon].

Good one!

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