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I would think that there would definitely be a charge (no pun intended) for using the EV chargers. After all it is KOA.


How much does it cost to fully recharge empty Tesla anyway?

Anyone here knows the real numbers?
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In BC Canada at home about 8 bucks Canadian currency. At a supercharger (in BC) probably about 24 bucks. I’m never empty when I start so a little speculation here. I think my biggest supercharger bill was around 19 bucks...ish. Prices vary depending on region. We do most of our charging at home.

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Reisender wrote:

free radical wrote:

Jack_Diane_Freedom wrote:

I would think that there would definitely be a charge (no pun intended) for using the EV chargers. After all it is KOA.


How much does it cost to fully recharge empty Tesla anyway?

Anyone here knows the real numbers?
TY


In BC Canada at home about 8 bucks Canadian currency. At a supercharger (in BC) probably about 24 bucks. I’m never empty when I start so a little speculation here. I think my biggest supercharger bill was around 19 bucks...ish. Prices vary depending on region. We do most of our charging at home.

Interesting. And how many miles does $19 get you (or $8 at home)?
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JKJavelin wrote:

Reisender wrote:

free radical wrote:

Jack_Diane_Freedom wrote:

I would think that there would definitely be a charge (no pun intended) for using the EV chargers. After all it is KOA.


How much does it cost to fully recharge empty Tesla anyway?

Anyone here knows the real numbers?
TY


In BC Canada at home about 8 bucks Canadian currency. At a supercharger (in BC) probably about 24 bucks. I’m never empty when I start so a little speculation here. I think my biggest supercharger bill was around 19 bucks...ish. Prices vary depending on region. We do most of our charging at home.

Interesting. And how many miles does $19 get you (or $8 at home)?
JK


Depends where you drive. We are in BC so speed limits are lower. A solid 500 kilometres is easy here as we average about 6,4 kilometres per kWh. If you drive American style interstates st higher speeds probably 10 percent less or so, so around 440 kilometres. We still travel like we did with our grand Cherokee, so always on the top 80 percent of the battery. We typically take a 15 minute supercharge break every 2.5 to 3 hours. Empty the bladder and fill the coffee cup. Works for us. Not every body likes that kind of pace though. Most of our road trips are under 700 kilometres and our most common road trip is 476 kilometres.

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A little better article from an RV publication. Good picture of the pedestal as well. Made by Jamestown advanced products out of New York.

https://www.rvtravel.com/koas-program-ad........tric-vehicle-chargers-campgrounds-1027b/

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Since CA is already having brown outs and rolling blackouts because their grid cannot support current use what happens when everyone plugs in their EV at night? LIGHTS OUT!

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Since CA is already having brown outs and rolling blackouts because their grid cannot support current use what happens when everyone plugs in their EV at night? LIGHTS OUT!


Where in CA do you live that this is happening currently? The only "rolling blackouts" were a few from the highest usage this past Summer with record high temps. If you'll recall, the Texas grid failed in a spectacular fashion from overloading. CA is keeping its grid from failing. We have plenty of energy.

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I think hes talking about cal having to not shudder the natural gas power plants that were supost to go offline. This is because the alternative fules can't keep up with demand. Texas was a diffrent thing entirely. They cut voltage off to the back up power plants as they were not put on the essential power list. There are way more reasons then those. So not overloaded per say, just bad planning. Disclamer, i dont live in eaother state.

And , staying closer to the ev thread point , i have sceen people rent campsites just to charge there EV for a day at a state park. And this place was crowded, so they had to reserve way in advance. I thought it was strange for a car to just park and plug in for the day and night. Maybe they had a camper elsewhere in the campground, but I didnt see the people to ask.


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ferndaleflyer wrote:

Since CA is already having brown outs and rolling blackouts because their grid cannot support current use what happens when everyone plugs in their EV at night? LIGHTS OUT!


There is a misconception here - brown outs happen during the day when the load on the utility is at it's highest due to AC, people working, etc. At night, the load on the utility is light, so charging your EV is less demand on the overall load. In addition, there is things in the works to allow EV owners to sell power back to the utility, or company during the day, so charge at night, store the power in your EV, then sell it back to the utility during the day when rates are higher and demand is higher. The missing link is the meter on your EV to see how much power you are selling back to your company, the utility, or whoever. Most EV users don't use but a small percentage of their battery to get to and from work, so its an interesting idea.

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Thermoguy wrote:

ferndaleflyer wrote:

Since CA is already having brown outs and rolling blackouts because their grid cannot support current use what happens when everyone plugs in their EV at night? LIGHTS OUT!


There is a misconception here - brown outs happen during the day when the load on the utility is at it's highest due to AC, people working, etc. At night, the load on the utility is light, so charging your EV is less demand on the overall load. In addition, there is things in the works to allow EV owners to sell power back to the utility, or company during the day, so charge at night, store the power in your EV, then sell it back to the utility during the day when rates are higher and demand is higher. The missing link is the meter on your EV to see how much power you are selling back to your company, the utility, or whoever. Most EV users don't use but a small percentage of their battery to get to and from work, so its an interesting idea.


When we lived in California we would charge at night. Gotta say, never saw a brown out. Might have been where we were.

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Brown outs happen when demand exceads supply. Yes, in theory its not a burden. But as people and componies switch to solar without the storage capacity, you have less voltage avalable at night. Couple that with a heat wave and eceryone required to have e vehicals by a certain date, and fazing out of fossil fule electricity, coupled with the draw of the e vehicals , it could be a disaster. Its not just one thing that drives this, its a myriad of things. Untill they have stable and ample supply of energy at night they will continue, as they allready are to rely on fossil fules.

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