bowler1
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I do like that Champion and people have said very good things about it. My only concern would be the noise level at 61db. That's a bit on the louder side of "quiet" generators.
I believe the Westinghouse and Cummins portable and similar variants are rated at 52DB. Because DB are a logarithmic scale the difference in 9DB should be fairly significant. Of course the way they are measured could be different (distance from generator and % load)
That is one other minor detail that makes me question if the Westinghouse and "Cummins" could truly be low quality. Generally the low quality and "cheap" generators are loud. 52DB is pretty impressively quiet.
I think I would pretty quickly jump on the Champion if it were quieter, but I might sacrifice volume for reliability.
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Actually I may stand corrected on the sound.....I just watched a review where they tested both under load and they were pretty close to the same volume. So volume may not be an issue.
Anyone else have a Champion?
Part of my reason for this post is to see actual experience from owners or people who know folks with these generators. Although online reviews are interesting, they don't compare to real people with real experience of ownership and using them under real conditions.
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I bought the Champion 3100/2800 in 2018,and it does perform well, but is louder than I expected.
I wish I bought a Honda.
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Ive had a 4000 Champion open frame for 10 years now. I use it pretty often and it's never failed to start. Yes it's heavy & loud as it's not one of these new enclosed Inverter types . Just saying my Champion experience has been really great. Our "genny" needs are changing so I'm probably going with 2 duel fuel Inverter Champions as soon as I solve my golf car towing issue.
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I have 3 Champions and wouldn't buy anything else.
I was recently visiting a friend at a campground during a local motorcycle rally. My friend was running his Predator 3500 to recharge his batteries while his neighbor was using a Honda 2000 to do the same. The Predator was at a slow idle while the Honda was maybe half throttle. The Honda was noticeably louder.
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bowler1 wrote:I do like that Champion and people have said very good things about it. My only concern would be the noise level at 61db. That's a bit on the louder side of "quiet" generators.
I believe the Westinghouse and Cummins portable and similar variants are rated at 52DB. Because DB are a logarithmic scale the difference in 9DB should be fairly significant. Of course the way they are measured could be different (distance from generator and % load)
That is one other minor detail that makes me question if the Westinghouse and "Cummins" could truly be low quality. Generally the low quality and "cheap" generators are loud. 52DB is pretty impressively quiet.
I think I would pretty quickly jump on the Champion if it were quieter, but I might sacrifice volume for reliability.
Matt
Which Champion model are you referring to, that has a 61db noise rating?
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bowler1 wrote:I do like that Champion and people have said very good things about it. My only concern would be the noise level at 61db. That's a bit on the louder side of "quiet" generators.
I believe the Westinghouse and Cummins portable and similar variants are rated at 52DB. Because DB are a logarithmic scale the difference in 9DB should be fairly significant. Of course the way they are measured could be different (distance from generator and % load)
That is one other minor detail that makes me question if the Westinghouse and "Cummins" could truly be low quality. Generally the low quality and "cheap" generators are loud. 52DB is pretty impressively quiet.
I think I would pretty quickly jump on the Champion if it were quieter, but I might sacrifice volume for reliability.
Matt Check db scales, 60 db is normal conversations.
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Any other opinions on this topic--preferably from someone who has first-hand experience? I do appreciate all the insights, but only a few of the posts seem to be based on personal experience.
General consensus here and other places seems to be that the cummins is a POS and the Westinghouse is pretty good....but people say they are the same generator.
Only consistently good reviews I see are for the Hondas, but they are just too expensive for me for the level of power I need.
Getting close to buying one, but still have no real solid opinion about which one to get.
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bowler1 wrote:Any other opinions on this topic--preferably from someone who has first-hand experience?
I own 4 Champion inverter models, and around 7 of their older, non-inverter models.
I lose count sometimes.
Their model 200994 is the latest addition to my collection - It's dual-fuel, electric-start, and rated for around 3.5 KW continuous power.
It's very quiet when powering a moderate electrical load, but not any quieter than most other models of comparable size when it's working hard.
It's big enough that it doesn't work hard often - which means that it's usually very quiet.
Like all models in its size class, it's heavy.
My other 3 inverter models are in the 2KW size class, which makes them MUCH more portable.
Haven't had any problems with any of them, but have ordered spare parts several times from Champion's parts depot in Santa Fe Springs, CA - Excellent customer service.
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I have a Honda 5500 inverter.
Ran my 30 amp TT fine and is quiet
Of course it wont run both AC units on the 5er.
Only problems I ever had in years of ownership is from sitting up not being cycled
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