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Posted: 12/05/21 07:41pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

toedtoes wrote:

There is already multible threads on this.

The ban against small generators IS NOT going into effect until the technology makes zero emmission generators feasible. The law is about reducing "low hanging fruit" IC engine small equipment use such as personal use leaf blowers and lawn mowers, and encouraging new technology for the rest. No equipment will be banned until the feasibility and technology is sufficient for the usage.

You have more faith in the California government being reasonable than I do.


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Bobbo wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

There is already multible threads on this.

The ban against small generators IS NOT going into effect until the technology makes zero emmission generators feasible. The law is about reducing "low hanging fruit" IC engine small equipment use such as personal use leaf blowers and lawn mowers, and encouraging new technology for the rest. No equipment will be banned until the feasibility and technology is sufficient for the usage.

You have more faith in the California government being reasonable than I do.


It states it right in the law. No belief required.


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SLOW IS BETTER. YEP

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toedtoes wrote:

Bobbo wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

There is already multible threads on this.

The ban against small generators IS NOT going into effect until the technology makes zero emmission generators feasible. The law is about reducing "low hanging fruit" IC engine small equipment use such as personal use leaf blowers and lawn mowers, and encouraging new technology for the rest. No equipment will be banned until the feasibility and technology is sufficient for the usage.

You have more faith in the California government being reasonable than I do.


It states it right in the law. No belief required.


Coming from a Government that changed mask requirements a hundred times instead of following the science.....

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Might be an issue if you live in California but generally, if it's legal in your home state, interstate commerce laws prohibit the prohibition for those traveling thru.


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toedtoes wrote:

There is already multible threads on this.

The ban against small generators IS NOT going into effect until the technology makes zero emmission generators feasible. The law is about reducing "low hanging fruit" IC engine small equipment use such as personal use leaf blowers and lawn mowers, and encouraging new technology for the rest. No equipment will be banned until the feasibility and technology is sufficient for the usage.


As a politician, I declare zero emission generators to be "feasible" and "sufficient" - and therefore ban conventional generators.

There - Problem solved.

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toedtoes wrote:

Bobbo wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

There is already multible threads on this.

The ban against small generators IS NOT going into effect until the technology makes zero emmission generators feasible. The law is about reducing "low hanging fruit" IC engine small equipment use such as personal use leaf blowers and lawn mowers, and encouraging new technology for the rest. No equipment will be banned until the feasibility and technology is sufficient for the usage.

You have more faith in the California government being reasonable than I do.


It states it right in the law. No belief required.

Again, you have more faith in the California government being reasonable than I do.

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toedtoes wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

There is already multible threads on this.

The ban against small generators IS NOT going into effect until the technology makes zero emmission generators feasible. The law is about reducing "low hanging fruit" IC engine small equipment use such as personal use leaf blowers and lawn mowers, and encouraging new technology for the rest. No equipment will be banned until the feasibility and technology is sufficient for the usage.


Don’t count on that, I am starting to believe that elected and appointed officials don’t have any common sense at all.
The electric Infrastructure will never be strong enough to away with small generators.



If they can't develop a zero emmisiion generator, then the ban will never happen. Simple as that.


Do you use a generator with your camper? If this is such a great idea, should sell that thing now while it's still worth some money and go on about living green (along with your 50 year old emissions spewing camper)....
You realize you're talking out of both sides of your mouth here, right?


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Just like the switch from renewable fuels, car mileage milestone for automobiles, and changing over to EVs, California again leads the rest of the nation forward. If new technology cannot meet the requirements by a set date, the date can be changed within minutes. There may not be a replacement for a loggers chainsaw, so those might be around for quite some time. The RV generators may not be affected for the same reasoning. If California doesn't do this, who will? Look at what California has done to enlighten the rest of the country regarding solar. The writing is on the wall for coal, once a high density commercial grade battery source is figured out (saltwater?). The same will happen with EV's. When solid state batteries are perfected, there will be no need for ICE vehicles. We've gone through these phases before.

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Hmmm, so just who are the Elites targeting?

IMO, majority of the impacted consumers will be us working folks--we who enjoy camping (generators) and mow our own lawns (blowers and mowers), and of course the small businesses that cater to the Elites (gardeners, car detailers, caters, etc).

All in the name of Mother Earth.

So, anyone know the carbon footprint parity/breakeven (manufacturing + operation + end of life disposal) for these replacement "cleaner" small engines? In other words, just how much cleaner will they be?

As we know the BEVs have generally--over promised and under delivered thus far.

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