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stevenal

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Posted: 12/11/21 07:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

covered wagon wrote:

stevenal wrote:

Where is the receptacle? In the bed, or are you using the OEM trailer connector near the truck's rear bumper.


Im using the trailer connecter near the hitch for the outside lights. then runs toward the front left corner for the camper cord to plug in there to an added recipicle and then to the camper to plug in the camper recepticle. I forgot too, being unfair to everyone here...that my charge wire is coming from the truck batteries (separate) to the forward umbilical cord recepticle. But a huge troublsome problem exists in the wire connections behind the camper factory recepticle. They leave plenty of slack and wire to pull it out and check those connections. Like said before, twice I've seen where they relied on tightening the screw to go thru the wire insulation and not properly stripping the wire. It was amazing to find that also on my new NL camper.


I was asking the OP.


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First thank you to everyone that chimed in on this also the references to websites. So i checked the seven pin on my truck i have power top right pin. I than checked the cord between the truck and camper no power.I than went got another cord that plugs into 7 pin on truck to the cord on the camper and i had power same pin top right. I than plugged that into the camper pulled out the battery which was still hooked up to the camper and started my truck i get nothing to the battery. i Checked the voltage before i started truck and after and no change so it is not being charged at all. All fuses in the fuse panel are good. So could this be a grounding issue?

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Yes. The pin directly across from the hot one should be ground, and should connect to the truck's metal frame. Please see my previous question.

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need to do like me and just go from the truck batteries direct to the camper batteries thru the 7 pin you added on the truck. Only it's better to go thru a continious heavy duty relay with the trigger wire switched in the cab. this way if the camper batts are deeply discharged you won't hammer the alternator while using the intake heater or the seat heaters at the same time. Give them a chance to go, replenish the truck batts and then switch on the charge wire to the camper. The second gen alternator is just a hair shy of giving enough amps so it's best to control it and alternate the load put on it.

Just one burned diode in the alternator builds additional A/C ripple thru the system which is bad for the ECM and the PCM circuits so you want to keep the AC ripple below .05 that will tell you if your alt is still good. It can still chrge with a burned diode but the A/C noise hurts the electronics over time.

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cewillis wrote:

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Much simpler and probably more effective is a DC-DC charger.

Modern vehicles vehicles drop the voltage from the alternator to <13.5V shortly after starting. This has is not adequate to charge a house battery. The DC-DC charger boosts that up to the proper charging voltage.


Adequate current transfer is still required in any case -- thus heavy gauge wire.

Having a big, fat wire does not do any good when the voltage coming out of the alternator is <13.5V !

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My alternator - and I suspect all functioning alternators - charges at a voltage determined by the load voltage. While the load voltage is below ~14.3 to 14.4v, the alternator charges at ~14.4 volts.

Sorry, that is no longer correct. The PCM now controls the charging voltage based on various different algorithms, not just voltage. This has been the case for all major manufacturers for well over 10 years.

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ScottG wrote:


The OP's truck stays in the 14.X range.

"I'm from MO, show me !"

What matters is the voltage AT THE HOUSE BATTERY BANK while the vehicle is during down the road !

Dollars to donuts, it is <13.5V !

* This post was edited 12/19/21 05:57pm by theoldwizard1 *

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My friend had the same problem with his living light camper. Turned out there's a fuse between the battery and the panel that was hidden behind the water heater. Once you replace the fuse everything work for perfect


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