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Fisherman

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Posted: 12/09/21 02:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This might punch a hole in Li Ion Batteries if it comes to production and a lot safer by the sounds. https://graphenemg.com/energy-storage-solutions/aluminum-ion-battery/

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Fisherman,

Thanks for the link. Solid state batteries are on the horizon, too.


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After languishing for around a century, battery technology is exploding these days, driven by a combination of automotive, consumer electronics, and solar/wind renewable technologies that suddenly need batteries better than good old dry cell and flooded lead/acid.

Lithium ion (and other lithium chemistries) suffer from several problems, among them the relative rarity of lithium on this planet. Among the likely breakthroughs for batteries in the next few years are both solid state and alternate metal technologies.

In fact, there are solid state batteries already on the market . . . in the form of a battery the size of a fingernail used for certain very small, low drain electronic applications. Toyota has announced they will start building cars with solid state batteries next year (following long standing tradition in the IT business, we call these cars "vaporware" until we find them in the store and actually for sale).





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Solid Power is using sulfide and pyrite. I thought THIS was interesting.

Solid Power (SLDP) went public today. Ford and BMW have been funding them from for a few years and hope to use their batteries within 4 years.


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Posted: 12/09/21 06:50pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Fisherman wrote:

This might punch a hole in Li Ion Batteries if it comes to production and a lot safer by the sounds. https://graphenemg.com/energy-storage-solutions/aluminum-ion-battery/


only probalem with these anounceents is they are 5 to 10 years off befor eanything meaningfull. there was another one that I thought was the best news, but they figure it will be 15 years untill a working battery powerfull enough to power a childerens toy is availble.... this one you posted just applied for a patent, wich is usaly the first step as they have to do that before they will get any grants, so it is pretty much someones theroietical idea right now. now they get the money to see if it works good.

on a side note with bigger players like FORD getting into the battery market some things are moving faster now, which is great.

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2112 exciting times! Thanks for the link.

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I look at lithium batteries like compact florescent light bulbs. Lithium is just an interm solution until something reasonable comes along.

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If they reach production I might consider one once the LFP’s 10yr warranty runs out (though it could last waaay longer), but by then I believe a battery will be the least of my problems - lol

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