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BobsYourUncle

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More power has a price.
While Ford is stopping to refuel more often, GM and Ram will go sailing on past.
It's all relevant! [emoticon][emoticon]


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BobsYourUncle wrote:

More power has a price.
While Ford is stopping to refuel more often, GM and Ram will go sailing on past.
It's all relevant! [emoticon][emoticon]


I get great mileage in my new 6.7 with the 10 speed tranny so not sure what your comparison is based on. And with a 48 gal tank I have a pretty good range.

To the OP, the Ford not only has 475 HP but almost 1,100 ft lbs of torque. I will say all that HP and torque does make it a little lurchy as a grocery getter but pulling the FW it rides like a Cadillac.


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way2roll wrote:

BobsYourUncle wrote:

More power has a price.
While Ford is stopping to refuel more often, GM and Ram will go sailing on past.
It's all relevant! [emoticon][emoticon]


I get great mileage in my new 6.7 with the 10 speed tranny so not sure what your comparison is based on. And with a 48 gal tank I have a pretty good range.

To the OP, the Ford not only has 475 HP but almost 1,100 ft lbs of torque. I will say all that HP and torque does make it a little lurchy as a grocery getter but pulling the FW it rides like a Cadillac.


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Torque is what counts when hauling a load.


LOL, I wish you would tell that to my 440ft/lbs of torque 6.5 when I'm doing 25 MPH up a hill and a 5.3 gas rig with 383ft/lbs comes blowing past me like I'm standing still pulling the same or bigger trailer. [emoticon]


How I like to put it: ultimately, HP gets a load up a hill (as per Newton). Torque is simply a way of making hp, via rpm.

But if an engine ONLY has torque (2000 lb-ft @ 150rpm), it's getting nowhere fast.

Another law of physics: you can always CREATE torque with gearing, but you cannot create more power.


area under the torque curve in the rpm range used with the gearing you have is what counts. highest peak HP does not always equal best performance.

and actually 1 million lb-ft @50 rpm and direct drive to the prop gets the big ships with the Sultzer diesel moving pretty well.


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BobsYourUncle wrote:

More power has a price.
While Ford is stopping to refuel more often, GM and Ram will go sailing on past.
It's all relevant! [emoticon][emoticon]


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These results are for 250/2500 trucks so the Ram's data is the lower HP more fuel efficient engine. The Ford and Chevy use the same engine for 250/2500 and 350/3500 trucks.


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Most people likely choose the truck they are driving without putting much emphasis on power. If Ram came out with a 500 hp Cummins under its hood my guess is that most Ford owners would still buy Ford.


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475 HP isn't worth a darn sitting in line at the service department...


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spoon059 wrote:

475 HP isn't worth a darn sitting in line at the service department...


At 9.5 years the engine/transmission hasn't been touched. Maybe that's because I don't have 475 HP. [emoticon]

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spoon059 wrote:

475 HP isn't worth a darn sitting in line at the service department...



You must be deleted to get 475 hp out of your Ram. Is it tranny problems or why are you spending so much time at the service department?

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Posted: 12/22/21 07:33pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I’d settle for less horses & better MPG & easier maintenance….

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