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Posted: 01/09/22 08:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mr4aces wrote:

Initially i thought the brakemaster 9160 for air brakes looked good, but have now been made aware that an airline failure in the toad could negatively impact my coach air brakes.

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The info you received is not true.
I have used a Brake master for approx 20 yrs. It is so simple and so basic, and that's its advantage IMHO.
Any air brake system for your toad will have an umbilical hose that is plugged in when you tow. Once I failed to couple the hose good at the toad while we were traveling, the coupler dragged on the hiway for miles and miles, the brass coupler was gone. The Air hose was wide open, I never knew it, my brakes on the coach worked fine, and my air pressure stayed up. Air only comes out of that hose when applying the brake. It wasn't until in traffic I began to notice the toad brakes weren't working, coach brakes still worked fine.
I bought a new coupler at Graingers and we were on our way.
IMHO a Brakebuddy is far more apt to malfunction than any of the toad air brake systems.
I have read of many going from a Brakebuddy to an air system, never the other way.

BTW 20 yrs ago I was going to use the M&G system but it wouldn't fit the toad we had.

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Saying which is best is tough. There are many options and everyone mine define what is best differently. For some its convenience - plug & play & others its cost out the door. I think we all want reliability and ease of use.

Once the air system is setup it's a pretty much plug & play. As I've never used it others can give feedback about your concerns. Before I ruled out the air braking I'd get advice as you did here, and talk to a dealership or two about things.

For my setup I went with the NSA ReadyBrake system which I documented on this post


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Typically, when you buy an RV product or pretty much any product, there is a Good, Better and Best. Unfortunately, that is not true with RV brake systems. Only the DP's can use the proportional brake systems that require air. So that narrows down some of the options for gassers.

One of the first devices was the box on the floor that pushes on the brake pedal. It's completely removable between use and can easily be moved to another vehicle. Some didn't find them trustworthy while others didn't want to mess with the large box.

Another system, used in many forms, is a piston pushing on the brake pedal. Some quickly attach to a fitting under the seat where ones like mine have a small piston attached to the pedal.

A lot depends on how much you want to install each time you tow. My AF1 is always installed and hidden out of the way. All I do is plug in my umbilical and airline at the front of the toad and I'm done. Others don't mind taking a few more steps.

The last one to discuss is the Ready Brake that has a surge brake built into the tow bar. The brake system and tow bar are all one price, saving money on a separate braking system, that can easily cost $700 - $1200.

The Ready Brake requires a fair amount of initial setup on the toad, which includes running the brake cable through the firewall and to the front bumper and a second cable if you go with a break away safety system.

I've actually been pushing these for people who want to save some money on their setup. I've installed 10 tow bar and base plate setups in the last 10 years. Some for me and some for friends. I just completed a Ready Brake install on a Class A gas and Jeep toad. Now that I'm done, I don't know if I would recommend it anymore.

All the parts came with the Ready Brake tow bar kit, except the safety break away. We made custom brackets for all the cables, so they were centered, but when done, it just seemed like a maze of equipment that could easily get caught up on something....two dangling cables.

The tow bar had two coiled safety cables, two 1/8" cables running from the Jeep to the coach, a 7-wire umbilical and a second 2 wire umbilical for the safety break away. We would have incorporated the 2 wires in the umbilical, but using the Jeep made harness prevented that.

They use huge red handled pins for the connection points and another red handled pin to hold the tow bar up when not in use. It was just crazy looking compared to my setup. My Roadmaster tow bar incorporates the safety cables into the tow arms, and I have one umbilical with an 1/4" air hose strapped to it.....that's it. All the pins are small headed and unobtrusive.

So you have a lot of choices to sift through. If you can't do your own install, you need to find what your local installer likes to use.


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$1100 for the ReadyBrake system. BlueOx base plate and you're in business. Hook up and go. No fooling around with the coach system either...ours is going on 14 years with zero issues....lifetime warranty besides....Dennis

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Executive wrote:

$1100 for the ReadyBrake system. BlueOx base plate and you're in business. Hook up and go. No fooling around with the coach system either...ours is going on 14 years with zero issues....lifetime warranty besides....Dennis

Here's a link...Ready Brute System


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the one we have used for several yrs is the invisbrake by Roadmaster no problems, ready to go after hook up to rv

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Posted: 01/21/22 01:08pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I like my ReadyBrake system, used it for several years to tow my Jeep GCL behind my Winnebago Brave with 0 problems.


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