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4x4ord

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Posted: 01/13/22 08:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If Ford would offer the option of a 3.31 rear axle ratio in their F450.
If F350/3500 SWR trucks were labeled F250/2500 and the 2500 series trucks were discontinued. A 3500 series truck should have duals.
Or how about if you could get a Powerstroke under the hood of your Ram[emoticon].
Or if...


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Cabin fever?
Please just don’t start the bsfc **** this early in the morning!


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I agree, and I've said it in the past. If the only difference between a "3/4 ton" truck and a "1 ton SRW" is rear springs, then put the rear springs on ALL SRW trucks and eliminate the concept of the "1 ton SRW."

If you want to play games with the numbers for licensing purposes, play games with the numbers. Ford already does that with their 10,000lb GVW F350 SRW.


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I agree with this too. The whole reason I bought a F350 is because there was really no difference in price from the F250 and I got increased payload. Had me questioning why the F250 exists - or to this point, call it a 250 and make the 350/3500 Duals.

I assume the only real benefit is registration and taxes for a 250 vs 350 in certain states. It's a game.


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4x4ord said: "Or how about if you could get a Powerstroke under the hood of your Ram"

Must be a rough winter up there, you feeling alright???


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Rather than drive a Powerstroke I would drink muddy water and sleep in a hollow log ! Can not beat a Cummins !!!

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way2roll wrote:

I agree with this too. The whole reason I bought a F350 is because there was really no difference in price from the F250 and I got increased payload. Had me questioning why the F250 exists - or to this point, call it a 250 and make the 350/3500 Duals.

I assume the only real benefit is registration and taxes for a 250 vs 350 in certain states. It's a game.


This has been said many times, and those who aren't involved with commercial use of light duty trucks probably don't understand, but IMO, the biggest "reason" 3/4 tons with a 10kgvw exist is for commercial users who need a "real" pickup truck without all the additional requirements for commercial vehicles.
Now that Ford and GM have exceeded the 10k gvw mark with their 3/4 tons, it could be a field day for enforcement as I'm sure not all commercial owners can or will get trucks with a special "10000gvw" package.
This is a huge deal. I get employees pulled over occasionally by local and state patrol simply to check DOT compliance if they're in a 1 ton or larger. And maintaining driver files for all involved, especially in construction with a very transient work force is an effort in futility and virtually impossible.

The traditional "3/4 ton" truck eliminates a great deal of those concerns.

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GM a few years ago moved the 2500 up a class and basically have the same GVWR SRW in the 2500 as a 3500 SRW, 11,500ish GVWR. But they do offer a 2500 with a 10,000GVWR.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

4x4ord said: "Or how about if you could get a Powerstroke under the hood of your Ram"

Must be a rough winter up there, you feeling alright???


4x4 was close, with his idea, but best would be Cummins engine in the Ford!

Advantages...better looking truck, much improved mirrors, best IBC, and of course MADE IN USA.

Jerry





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MFL wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

4x4ord said: "Or how about if you could get a Powerstroke under the hood of your Ram"

Must be a rough winter up there, you feeling alright???


4x4 was close, with his idea, but best would be Cummins engine in the Ford!

Advantages...better looking truck, much improved mirrors, best IBC, and of course MADE IN USA.

Jerry


There is a company that does just that, "Fummins". Yes then it would be a mostly Made in USA truck.

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