Good Sam Club Open Roads Forum: Dog attack in Lancaster CA
Open Roads Forum Already a member? Login here.   If not, Register Today!  |  Help

Newest  |  Active  |  Popular  |  RVing FAQ Forum Rules  |  Forum Posting Help and Support  |  Contact  

Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in General RVing Issues

Open Roads Forum  >  General RVing Issues

 > Dog attack in Lancaster CA

This Topic Is Closed  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 5  
Prev  |  Next
agesilaus

North Florida

Senior Member

Joined: 05/06/2008

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 02/23/22 01:49pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think (but don't know) the Pit Bulls aren't even an AKC recognized breed.


Arctic Fox 25Y Travel Trailer
2018 RAM 2500 6.7L 4WD shortbed
Straightline dual cam hitch
400W Solar with Victron controller
Superbumper


Grit dog

Black Diamond, WA

Senior Member

Joined: 05/06/2013

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/23/22 02:11pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

RoyF wrote:

A few years ago, I was attacked by a pit bull. I came off lucky -- only a bite in the thigh. I was able to stay on my feet until the owner could pull the dog off, exclaiming "he's never done that before".

When I contacted my representative on my city council about a possible city ordinance to limit pit bulls, I was told there was a strong pro-pit-bull lobby that would make it impossible to pass such an ordinance.


City council? lol

That dog would have bled out due to multiple stab wounds, unless I was in an airport, because you can't carry a knife in an airport...


2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29

Grit dog

Black Diamond, WA

Senior Member

Joined: 05/06/2013

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/23/22 02:16pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You never know when that "General RVing Issue", pitbull attacking you in a homeless camp, will pop up!
Thanks for the hearty rv.net warning. Our members will be safer for it.

Grit dog

Black Diamond, WA

Senior Member

Joined: 05/06/2013

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/23/22 02:19pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Along the same lines, I saw someone sh tting on the ground next to their RV in a Portland "RV Park", sorry, "encampment", last weekend when we were down there. Fair warning, I don't think the hook ups were working there, so, you know, RV related....

toedtoes

California

Senior Member

Joined: 05/17/2014

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 02/23/22 02:32pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

agesilaus wrote:

I was going to say that pit bulls weren't the most dangerous but looked it up. Forbes says they had 284 attacks with Rottweilers and German Shepards far far below them. 280 or so for the PB and 45 IIRC for the Rottweiler. All the other breeds added together probably are less than half of the PB.
I thought Chows were highly dangerous but they aren't even in the top ten. Of course how many dogs of a specific breed exist in the US is a factor. Not many chows around for example.


Anyone can buy a "pitbull" for $100-$500 or get one from a shelter for even less. They look "tough". They have a reputation. And they are used for illegal sport. That means they are owned and bred by lowlifes far more than other breeds. And these lowlifes will purposely breed the least sound in temperament to encourage that reputation. So it's logical that there are more reported bite incidents with "pitbulls". Shepherds, dobies and rotties can be had for around $500 from backyard breeders, but they are not used for illegal sport and therefore aren't purposely bred to be unpredictable and/or dangerous, so while there are temperamentally unsound dogs of those breeds, it's not as common as unsound temperaments in "pitbulls". In addition, many, if not most, of these lowlife owners abuse, neglect, fail to socialize, fail to obedience train, fail to control, fail to keep contained, etc their dogs. And many of these lowlife owners use dangerous and cruel techniques like alpha rolls to "dominate" their dogs. All this leads to individual dogs with serious issues.

The other consideration is that the "pitbull" label is not limited to one breed. There is the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT), the american staffordshire, the staffordshire, the bull terrier, and a huge variety of mixed breeds comsisting of mastiffs, dogo argentinas, cane corsos, etc. All of these can and do get identified as "pitbull" for bite statistics. So, while a "german shepherd" label is pretty much limited to one or two breeds plus their mixes, a "pitbull" label is used for a dozen or more breeds plus their mixes.


1975 American Clipper RV with Dodge 360 (photo in profile)
1998 American Clipper Fold n Roll Folding Trailer
Both born in Morgan Hill, CA to Irv Perch (Daddy of the Aristocrat trailers)

dedmiston

Coast to Coast

Moderator

Joined: 01/26/2004

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member


Posted: 02/23/22 02:40pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

toedtoes wrote:

Anyone can buy a "pitbull" for $100-$500 or get one from a shelter for even less.


The shelters are loaded with pits in So Cal. There's definitely no shortage.


2014 RAM 3500 Diesel 4x4 Dually long bed. AISIN trans & 4.10 rear. B&W RVK3600 hitch • 2015 Crossroads Elevation Homestead Toy Hauler ("The Taj Mahauler") • Hooligan #3

Toys:
  • 18 Can Am Maverick x3
  • 05 Yamaha WR450
  • 07 Honda CRF250X
  • 05 Honda CRF230
  • 06 Honda CRF230


toedtoes

California

Senior Member

Joined: 05/17/2014

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 02/23/22 03:04pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

dedmiston wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

Anyone can buy a "pitbull" for $100-$500 or get one from a shelter for even less.


The shelters are loaded with pits in So Cal. There's definitely no shortage.


And there are far more backyard breeders breeding "pitbulls" than any individual breed. And those people sell them to anyone no questions asked as long as they have the dollars.

toedtoes

California

Senior Member

Joined: 05/17/2014

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 02/23/22 03:22pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

agesilaus wrote:

I think (but don't know) the Pit Bulls aren't even an AKC recognized breed.


The American Pit Bull Terrier is not AKC recognized.

The close relatives and oft confused American Staffordshire Terrier and American Bulldog are recognized.

Recognized breeds that are seen in mixes labeled as "pitbull" include the bull terrier, boxer, bulldog, bullmastiff, cane corso, dogo argentino, dogue de bordeaux, mastiff, miniature bull terrier, neopolitan mastiff, perro de presa canario, and staffordshire bull terrier. Then there are other non-recognized breeds out there whose mixes can also be seen as "pitbull".

Boon Docker

Mountain Foothills of Southern Alberta

Senior Member

Joined: 10/30/2015

View Profile



Posted: 02/23/22 05:58pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

RoyF wrote:

A few years ago, I was attacked by a pit bull. I came off lucky -- only a bite in the thigh. I was able to stay on my feet until the owner could pull the dog off, exclaiming "he's never done that before".

When I contacted my representative on my city council about a possible city ordinance to limit pit bulls, I was told there was a strong pro-pit-bull lobby that would make it impossible to pass such an ordinance.


City council? lol

That dog would have bled out due to multiple stab wounds, unless I was in an airport, because you can't carry a knife in an airport...


Be careful at that "RV Related" airport. [emoticon]

Rice

Wandering

Senior Member

Joined: 06/21/2003

View Profile



Posted: 02/26/22 03:40pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

agesilaus wrote:

As for headlines are they ever accurate?

But you're the one who chose to post the version of the story that had that headline. You could have found one with a more accurate headline, like the one from the CBS affiliate: "Man Dies Following Dog Attack At Lancaster Homeless Encampment."

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2022/02/........attack-leaves-four-wounded-in-lancaster/

This Topic Is Closed  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 5  
Prev  |  Next

Open Roads Forum  >  General RVing Issues

 > Dog attack in Lancaster CA
Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in General RVing Issues


New posts No new posts
Closed, new posts Closed, no new posts
Moved, new posts Moved, no new posts

Adjust text size:




© 2022 CWI, Inc. © 2022 Good Sam Enterprises, LLC. All Rights Reserved.