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Posted: 03/09/22 06:04pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

larry cad wrote:

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LouLawrence wrote:

Both black and grey tanks SMELL BAD by default if no other action is taken.

Then use bleach.


Doesn't bleach kill off the bacteria and that is bad?


Since your RV's black tank is a holding tank, not a septic field, it doesn't matter.


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Gray an black tanks always stink but the plumbing is designed so you don’t smell them during normal use. If you can smell your tanks you have a vent and/or trap problem you might address. I’m on my third MH and stopped using chemicals 20 years ago after I realized I didn’t need them.

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magicbus wrote:

Gray an black tanks always stink but the plumbing is designed so you don’t smell them during normal use. If you can smell your tanks you have a vent and/or trap problem you might address. I’m on my third MH and stopped using chemicals 20 years ago after I realized I didn’t need them.

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I agree. I toss some Dawn and Calgon into my bowl every few trips like a superstitious native throwing a virgin into a volcano. I can't say how effective it is, but my gauge has been working reliably for years so I'll keep it up.

My apologies to the virgins.

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dedmiston wrote:

magicbus wrote:

Gray an black tanks always stink but the plumbing is designed so you don’t smell them during normal use. If you can smell your tanks you have a vent and/or trap problem you might address. I’m on my third MH and stopped using chemicals 20 years ago after I realized I didn’t need them.

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I agree. I toss some Dawn and Calgon into my bowl every few trips like a superstitious native throwing a virgin into a volcano. I can't say how effective it is, but my gauge has been working reliably for years so I'll keep it up.

My apologies to the virgins.

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I refuse to get into an argument regarding choice of chemicals, GEO method, or just water. I NEVER said that I have any smells coming from my tanks; there is nothing wrong with my tanks/vents/lines/traps, etc., however, there IS the occasional "whiff" while dumping; anyone who claims otherwise is simply not being honest. And to you wonderful people who's s--t doesn't stink, both black and grey, I challenge you to dump a bit into a bucket and take a good deep whiff.

Finally, I asked if anyone knew why it was no longer available in CA, NOT why your method was so much better than mine (BTW, I'm always amused that somehow people think that Dawn and Calgon are NOT chemicals[emoticon]). I've been RVing for 45 years and tried many things, I'm perfectly satisfied with the method that I use. You do you, I'll do me, thank you.

When I dump, no solids ever come through the hose (clear fittings at both ends); Happy Campers breaks it all down into liquid better than any other method I've tried, which facilitates more thorough emptying of the tanks. It also reduces any odors when dumping. I did email the company, but haven't received a response. It appears that IAMICHABOD and StarkNaked gave the correct answer; SB-317. Thanks.

* This post was last edited 03/14/22 03:16pm by 4x4van *   View edit history


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Posted: 03/14/22 07:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sorry, I'm not in the habit of putting grey/black water into a bucket just so I can see if it stinks. The idea is to get it from your rear end, into the toilet, down into the tanks, out the sewer hose and into whatever septic system there is with the least amount of stink.

Now if I had an issue with any of the above process I'd address it but it's Never been an issue unless I have an unforseen spill or a very leaky sewer hose with a sewer connection less than air tight.
I'll add....this has been my experience, if you are anyone else wants to treat their waste with chemicals, perfumes,soaps or potions....have at it!!????????


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4x4van wrote:

I refuse to get into an argument regarding choice of chemicals, GEO method, or just water. I NEVER said that I have any smells coming from my tanks; there is nothing wrong with my tanks/vents/lines/traps, etc., however, there IS the occasional "whiff" while dumping; anyone who claims otherwise is simply not being honest. And to you wonderful people who's s--t doesn't stink, both black and grey, I challenge you to dump a bit into a bucket and take a good deep whiff.

Finally, I asked if anyone knew why it was no longer available in CA, NOT why your method was so much better than mine (BTW, I'm always amused that somehow people think that Dawn and Calgon are NOT chemicals[emoticon]). I've been RVing for 45 years and tried many things, I'm perfectly satisfied with the method that I use. You do you, I'll do me, thank you.

When I dump, no solids ever come through the hose (clear fittings at both ends); Happy Campers breaks it all down into liquid better than any other method I've tried, which facilitates more thorough emptying of the tanks. It also reduces any odors when dumping. I did email the company, but haven't received a response. It appears that IAMICHABOD and StarkNaked gave the correct answer; SB-317. Thanks.


I agree with you... your seemingly simple question about CA regulatory issues morphed into the good/bad/ugly about the process of storing and dumping . BTW, when I use a tank additive, it is Happy Camper.... works great.


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Acampingwewillgo wrote:


If you are treating every single time you dump, you have a sewer gas leakage issue or you need to adjust the air pressures so your aren't drawing odors out of the tank.
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I'll add....this has been my experience, if you are anyone else wants to treat their waste with chemicals, perfumes,soaps or potions....have at it!!????????
Which was my point exactly. You do you, I'll do me. And I will repeat that if you claim to have NEVER gotten a whiff when dumping, then you are not being honest. Period. How do you disconnect while maintaining that "airtight" seal?

YOU are the one who ignored my original question, claimed I had a leakage issue, and attempted to turn it into a narrative on HOW I should be dumping my waste.[emoticon] Exactly what did that have to do with my question? Nothing.

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Well if you really can't handle a "whiff when dumping" then I guess you do need to add something to mask it. I guess after growing up camping using pit toilets, on boats using cassette toilets, and then finally graduating to RV's and a boat with with closed tanks, catching a "whiff" reminds me how far I've come [emoticon].

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Many of these comments prove, once again, how people can ignore a question but post anyway in order to see their words in print.

If anyone knows the particular chemical in Happy Campers that CA has recently added to their "banned" list, I'd appreciate your input. If any of you want to continue to chastise those of us who use it (or other means), please don't bother.

* This post was edited 03/15/22 04:48pm by 4x4van *

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