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211Racing

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Wife did something sweet but silly to help out a friend. Bought her 2002 Tioga 24d. Base is a Ford e350 Super Duty van. Apparently it has not been started or moved in over a year. (I'll post about my starting questions in another post.) Here I'd like to know why it won't budge. It will run for a few brief seconds on starting fluid, when I get it into neutral. Today I did put a tow strap between the RV and my 4Runner to try to move the RV a little before the tow truck comes tomorrow. Pulled gently until the T4R wheels spun. RV was unmoved. What am I looking at? The parking brake did not seem to be engaged, but was very stiff until I worked the pedal and then the release several dozen times. Do the brakes rust/freeze-shut on these things? Do I need to get it running somehow (fuel directly into fuel rail) to bring it to life? Would really like to have a game plan before the tow shows up. Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge.

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Lift a wheel. Will it spin? Repeat all four corners. Block your wheels carefully!


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There's a good possibility that your brakes are 'seized' or badly rusted. Service brakes or parking brake. You may have released the parking brake pedal, but the actual brake may still be on. Also the service brake rotors, pads could be badly rusted.
The extra power and traction from the tow truck may be enough to free them up to be towed. When you get it home, time for a good inspection of all.

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Parking brakes will sometimes freeze up if they sit for long period of time. Maybe the gas in the tank has gone stale.

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If the brakes are rusted after sitting for a year, I’d hate to know what else is that badly rusted under there!


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Beverley&Ken wrote:

There's a good possibility that your brakes are 'seized' or badly rusted. Service brakes or parking brake. You may have released the parking brake pedal, but the actual brake may still be on. Also the service brake rotors, pads could be badly rusted.
The extra power and traction from the tow truck may be enough to free them up to be towed. When you get it home, time for a good inspection of all.

Ken


I will double that Now if the "Service" Brakes are disc type they are likely ok but the parking brake is likely a drum type on the drive shaft just aft of the transmission... That's where I'd start.


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My 2006 Jeep Liberty, 4 wheel disc brakes, had shoes in the rear drum assembly for parking brake. Sometimes reversing direction will free drum brakes.


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DancinCampers wrote:

My 2006 Jeep Liberty, 4 wheel disc brakes, had shoes in the rear drum assembly for parking brake. Sometimes reversing direction will free drum brakes.


I second that - doesn't cost anything and might work.


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Was the parking brake set initially? It’s virtually impossible for brakes to “freeze stuck” otherwise, unless they were already had a sticking caliper or wheel cylinder or parking brake was set, when parked.
Starting? Ford V10s are fairly bulletproof. Does the fuel pump prime with key on?
And how long is “over a year?” That’s a pretty broad description. Running when parked, a year or year plus should still result in it starting.
If “over a year” means 5 years, different story.
Hope your friend appreciates your generosity. And hope you only paid for a non running rv.


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If you’re in hill county, how many times has the rig seen the Gulf?

Guessing your caliper pins are frozen. Probably old gas is the other problem.

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