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huskyfan68

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Posted: 03/21/22 01:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Back to towing travel trailer with 09 F150 with the 5.4
I would like to add something in the rear since I had good luck with airbags in past trucks and campers. I am looking at Sumo Springs vs Timbrens. (which appear to be simpler than airbags)- Anyone have and advice on which one is better?) Just looking for some load stabilization and leveling.

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Posted: 03/21/22 05:08pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Why not stick with what has worked in the past? It's tough to get much simpler than air bags. JMO of course.


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I went with airbags, and a dual path compressor. My main reason is the ability to adjust the hieght of the rear of the TV and the front of the coach to get the 6 point stabilizer legs over obstacles when manuvering into a camping spot. With a bluetooth controlled compressor, it works really well.


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When I had a leaf spring F150, I added a helper leaf to each side. Don't remember the brand anymore. Super simple install and worked great for years.

I tried Timbrens on my current Ram 1500. It was a jarring mistake. I took them back off within a week. Sumo Springs come in two strengths I think. I would opt for the softer one.

Right now I'm considering air bags. Fairly simple install and adjustability are both plusses.

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I have Sumo’s. Took 3” of squat and made it 1.5”. Installed them and forget they’re there. They only come in contact when camper is hooked up. I forget the rating but they’re the black ones.


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huskyfan68 wrote:

Back to towing travel trailer with 09 F150 with the 5.4
I would like to add something in the rear since I had good luck with airbags in past trucks and campers. I am looking at Sumo Springs vs Timbrens. (which appear to be simpler than airbags)- Anyone have and advice on which one is better?) Just looking for some load stabilization and leveling.

Repost your question regarding a 1/2 ton truck. HD 3/4 or one ton trucks don't help with the OP with his F150 question.

I have the black Sumo's on the wife '16 1500 chevy 4wd short bed truck for pulling my 10k car hauler/7200 lb blue tractor/7' Rhino mower. Make around 9200 lbs on the trailers axles. I load the tractor till about 1040-1100 lbs on the trucks rear axle depending on where I place the tractor.
Even with new Bilsteins the truck had more pogo sticking than I wanted with a WD hitch/friction bars or without. Not even a hint of pogo stickin' now.

I got them from etrailer at their recommendation per my combo use. On the chevy just take the 13mm bolt out of the bump stop and bolt the Sumo plate adapter to that spot. The adapter has a threaded stud pointing down. Spin the Sumo on and its ready to go. To remove the Sumo... jack the back of the truck up about a inch and spin the Sumo off. Install the OEM bump stop with the 13mm bolt. Takes me about 3 min to make the change.

I've used Timbrens but not on a 1/2 ton truck.


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fj12ryder wrote:

Why not stick with what has worked in the past? It's tough to get much simpler than air bags. JMO of course.


100% agree! Better yet get a truck that will do what you want.


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Posted: 03/22/22 03:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I can't say anything about Sumo's but I've been using Timbrens for years on my last 3 F150s without issue. They work great for me.


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fj12ryder wrote:

Why not stick with what has worked in the past? It's tough to get much simpler than air bags. JMO of course.


Airbags are certainly an option but yes, it can get much simpler.

Put a set of sumos on...one bolt off, one bolt on...done.

Now they can't be adjusted like an airbag but there is also nothing to fail.

Unlike the timbrens, they are progressive, meaning when they first contact, they apply a relatively small force per inch of compression and then ramp up, this avoids the really bad jarring when they do contact.

We have them on an F250 and there is about an inch of travel before they contact...I can't tell the difference driving around empty but they take some of the sag out when heavily loaded.


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Just installed the Sumo springs on my 2019 F150.
My research led me to believe Timbrens are great if you have a really heavy load hauled often but are too solid for daily driving unloaded.
I really didn’t want the hassle of air bag adjusting for my relatively light Travel Trailer, plus the Sumos are an easy install. My jounce bumper replacement bracket had a hole and bolt to add that the poly Sumo screws on to. Tack welding that in to the bracket would be a good thing. While the install procedure said to jack up the truck on the frame for an easier install, it was easy enough to do on a flat garage floor.
No change in daily driving. Have yet to haul a heavy load or pull my camper after the install.


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