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TravelinDog

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Posted: 03/28/22 03:37pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Almost all of the comments here come down to the same old Chevy vs Ram debate.
There are millions of these trucks out there towing trailers with no problems and nearly identical results so it still comes down to a matter of brand preference.

That being said I see no reason to put a 10 speed trans behind the Cummins engine because it works just fine the way it is.


Just say no to the payload police ">

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Huntindog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

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Payload was much different and somehow it was overlooked in the recap.


They did touch on the difference in payload, that the Ram was a true 3/4 ton the Chevy was a one ton labeled as a 3/4 ton with a GVWR of 11,300# if I heard correctly. The Chevy was also 500# heavier than the Ram.
The 500 LBS is mostly due to it being a higher trim level.... Which will actually work against it in the performance attributes of this test.


What about the higher trim would add 500# ?
I di not say it accounted for all of it. But there are many differences, and they add up.


I will ask again what would add SIGNIFICANT weight because of a higher trim level?


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cptqueeg wrote:

Payload was much different and somehow it was overlooked in the recap.


Payload means jack on these trucks. Check the axle ratings and they're probably very close.

I don't think that size trailer for these trucks is very telling. I don't know if the Ram needs more than 6 speeds or not but I do think the 68RFE is the worst HD diesel transmission. But I also think the Cummins EB has the best of the three.


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My take is with this small camper the 6 speed/Cummins combo was a good fit. Go to 30k lbs and I believe you'll see a different outcome or different varying size slopes/hills.


Neither one is rated for 30K!


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IdaD wrote:

cptqueeg wrote:

Payload was much different and somehow it was overlooked in the recap.


Payload means jack on these trucks. Check the axle ratings and they're probably very close.

I don't think that size trailer for these trucks is very telling. I don't know if the Ram needs more than 6 speeds or not but I do think the 68RFE is the worst HD diesel transmission. But I also think the Cummins EB has the best of the three.


Understood. (Couldn't find the ram axle ratings on their web page.)

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Me Again wrote:

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My take is with this small camper the 6 speed/Cummins combo was a good fit. Go to 30k lbs and I believe you'll see a different outcome or different varying size slopes/hills.


Neither one is rated for 30K!


Couple tires and AISIN the RAM would be.

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IdaD wrote:

cptqueeg wrote:

Payload was much different and somehow it was overlooked in the recap.


Payload means jack on these trucks. Check the axle ratings and they're probably very close.

I don't think that size trailer for these trucks is very telling. I don't know if the Ram needs more than 6 speeds or not but I do think the 68RFE is the worst HD diesel transmission. But I also think the Cummins EB has the best of the three.


I would say “least capable” trans available in the big three.

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TravelinDog wrote:

Almost all of the comments here come down to the same old Chevy vs Ram debate.
There are millions of these trucks out there towing trailers with no problems and nearly identical results so it still comes down to a matter of brand preference.

That being said I see no reason to put a 10 speed trans behind the Cummins engine because it works just fine the way it is.


More gears is in the Rams future. Like it or not.


I STRONGLY suspect that the Ram proponents will then sing its praises . Until then.....Dissing those that have it now, just sounds like a child refusing to admit that a classmate has a better toy.



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I don't think anyone is "DISSING" having more gears behind the higher revving V8's. I for one who should know if the RAM needs more gears towing 35k West Coast does NOT feel the need for more gears.

When RAM had the 4 speed auto and 5 speed stick they sure did need more gears but they both really needed to have more evenly spaced gears. The 6 speed stick and auto evened out the spacing nicely and work well behind the inline CUMMINS..

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cptqueeg wrote:

IdaD wrote:

cptqueeg wrote:

Payload was much different and somehow it was overlooked in the recap.


Payload means jack on these trucks. Check the axle ratings and they're probably very close.

I don't think that size trailer for these trucks is very telling. I don't know if the Ram needs more than 6 speeds or not but I do think the 68RFE is the worst HD diesel transmission. But I also think the Cummins EB has the best of the three.


Understood. (Couldn't find the ram axle ratings on their web page.)


My 2015 is 6000/6500. The same year Ram 3500 is 6000/7000.

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