Chum lee
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I am one of those "senior members" who rarely post here anymore.
Why? Because as I get older, I'm increasingly bored with RV'ers, who simply won't read their owners manuals. (many common questions are answered there) In their initial posts they provide so little information that it is literally impossible to help them in any meaningful helpful way without extensive further questioning. I'm not going to do your homework for you (for free). (year, make, model, engine, transmission, current mileage, previous repair history, location on the planet, etc.) IMO, the site administrators should require this information at the initial post. It would make a more helpful website. Since they don't, . . . . maybe there's some ulterior motive?
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TechWriter
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Chum lee wrote:. . . as I get older, I'm increasingly bored with RV'ers, who simply won't read their owners manuals. (many common questions are answered there) In their initial posts they provide so little information that it is literally impossible to help them in any meaningful helpful way without extensive further questioning. I'm not going to do your homework for you (for free)
Yikes! A tad bit harsh. As someone who used to write manuals, I’ll be the first to admit sometimes they’re of little value and they do get lost.
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Boon Docker
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Some people get grouchy and intolerant as they get older. ![[emoticon]](https://forums.goodsamclub.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
And other people become more helpful as they age.
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Chum lee
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TechWriter wrote:Chum lee wrote:. . . as I get older, I'm increasingly bored with RV'ers, who simply won't read their owners manuals. (many common questions are answered there) In their initial posts they provide so little information that it is literally impossible to help them in any meaningful helpful way without extensive further questioning. I'm not going to do your homework for you (for free)
Yikes! A tad bit harsh. As someone who used to write manuals, I’ll be the first to admit sometimes they’re of little value and they do get lost.
Yes, a little harsh it may be, BUT, the OP asked a question, and, I answered it to the best of my experience. If no one reads the (your) manuals, maybe you should take a look at yourself and your writing style. I read technical manuals all the time. I learn a great deal from them. Thanks for reminding me, there's always someone here who criticizes the truth, but they can't change it.
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JIMNLIN
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I've never saw a manual yet that had "all" the correct answers. And its not possible manuals can answer all questions.
Simply put manuals hit the high spots ...and if more tech answer are required rv forums most of the time someone has already found the answer.
Like this thread...nowdays a op have to plow through snarky remarks and from those that should have zipped their lip.
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frankwp
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As long as the forum has all these sad, nasty old men who also happen to know everything and think others are stupid for having a different opinion, younger, more open minded people are going to continue to stay away.
And I agree with others who have said the forum is undermined. I can think of a handful of long standing members who should have been banned before they past the New Member status.
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Cummins12V98
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TechWriter wrote:Chum lee wrote:. . . as I get older, I'm increasingly bored with RV'ers, who simply won't read their owners manuals. (many common questions are answered there) In their initial posts they provide so little information that it is literally impossible to help them in any meaningful helpful way without extensive further questioning. I'm not going to do your homework for you (for free)
Yikes! A tad bit harsh. As someone who used to write manuals, I’ll be the first to admit sometimes they’re of little value and they do get lost.
RV manuals??? HA, too funny!!!
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Acampingwewillgo
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Wow....I guess I can be considered in both camps...a member here since 2002 and an old man but I claim to know little. I will, on occassion, offer up my experience as it pertains to my ownership of a diesel motor home and RV'ing in general. I could care less how many times a question has been asked, if I can answer it, I will!
As to looking at an owners manual, in the words of your President, " Come on man" not everyone gets an owners manual with their used RV or what's in the manual is confusing to them. Finally, I guess I'm glad I'm not that "grouchy" yet as to not respond to simple questions. :-)
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JIMNLIN
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Quote:As long as the forum has all these sad, nasty old men who also happen to know everything and think others are stupid for having a different opinion, younger, more open minded people are going to continue to stay away.
From what I see its not all sad nasty old men who are all the problems.
Tough websites rules against this type of behavior we've seen the last several years and mods willing to enforce those rules can make better forums for those who ask newb questions that seem silly to some. Now days The newb gets bashed just for asking....and the mods did nothing to stop the bashers.......and isn't heard from again.
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way2roll
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In reference to the OP's original question of why seasoned members ask newbie questions, the answer is pretty simple. Things change. People change, technology changes, and Rv habits change. We've been Rv'ing over 2 decades in MH's until 2 years ago when we bought a FW. It's like being a newbie all over again. Sure the box is similar, but newer RV's have different technology and the whole process from start to finish for travelling is completely different. Everything from hooking up, driving, finding fuel, parking in a spot - is different. And who cares? Isn't that what this forum is for - to ask questions? The only dumb question is the one that isn't asked. But to ask why you don't know something or criticize why you are asking in the first place, in response to a question, is a problem on this forum. If you think a question is dumb, don't answer and scroll on by. Or bless us with your infinite wisdom since you obviously have learned all there is to know.
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