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BCSnob

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Posted: 04/15/22 05:25am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Kelley blue book lists 3-4 miles/kWh.
Average annual miles in the USA is 14,200.
384.5 million registered vehicles in the USA.
If every vehicle is replaced with an EV, how much kWh will be needed annually?
How does this number compare to 3.8 trillion kWh of electricity consumed in 2020 in the USA?

The average American household consumes 10,715 kWh annually; if the grid cannot support the additional kWh for EVs then it also cannot support additional households that would consume the same amount of electricity (household = ~ 2 EVs).

If you’re against EVs because of the impacts on the grid you’d better be against all additional increases in electricity consumption (like increased housing); there are issues with the grid and they are not confined to just increases in consumption by EVs.

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Tesla Roadster - 620 mile range

Not yet in production. $50,000 to reserve one.


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BCSnob wrote:

Kelley blue book lists 3-4 miles/kWh.
Average annual miles in the USA is 14,200.
384.5 million registered vehicles in the USA.
If every vehicle is replaced with an EV, how much kWh will be needed annually?
How does this number compare to 3.8 trillion kWh of electricity consumed in 2020 in the USA?

The average American household consumes 10,715 kWh annually; if the grid cannot support the additional kWh for EVs then it also cannot support additional households that would consume the same amount of electricity (household = ~ 2 EVs).

If you’re against EVs because of the impacts on the grid you’d better be against all additional increases in electricity consumption (like increased housing); there are issues with the grid and they are not confined to just increases in consumption by EVs.


BC hydro has info on their website on this. They estimate that if every personal vehicle became electric overnight the increased demand would be 19 percent greater tomorrow. They also indicate they already have that in reserve. And the reality is it’s a 25 year transition.

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

Real world retracing routes fuel mileage with and without AC at least fifty trips average.

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Yah could be. I’m not sure an EV range is affected as much as that. At least not in my experience.

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

Real world retracing routes fuel mileage with and without AC at least fifty trips average.

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DODGE SPIRIT
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Exactly, however (this from what I’ve read in years past…), due to a loss of aerodynamics when driving with the windows are down, running the air cond is essentially an energy wash…

The REAL Problem here is that the cart is ahead if the horse, policy is being driven by political gerrymandering rather than reality - Toyota is ‘drop dead’ correct, pointing out this all needs to be in the conversation…

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BCSnob wrote:


The average American household consumes 10,715 kWh annually; if the grid cannot support the additional kWh for EVs then it also cannot support additional households that would consume the same amount of electricity (household = ~ 2 EVs).


I'm consuming about 1800 kwh per year, at a cost of $0.48 per day (cdn).


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You’re not average [emoticon]

Question: is that power off the grid or total energy consumption (I’ll be very impressed if that is your total energy consumption, personal renewables plus grid).

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Yah, that is pretty low. We are around 7000 Kw for the year....ish...more or less. Our hydro app shows by month and I’m too lazy to add it up. But that also covers charging for one electric vehicle and sometimes two.

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Yeah, and last I checked, I got 11 MPG on my 40' DP!


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BCSnob wrote:

You’re not average [emoticon]

Question: is that power off the grid or total energy consumption (I’ll be very impressed if that is your total energy consumption, personal renewables plus grid).


I spent a bundle to get down to those figures in the apartment style condo. All lighting except for the bathroom vanity is led.

It is total electrical consumption.

No heating, and no hot water--both of which are natural gas. Costs and consumption are hidden in the condo fees.

The fridge is my biggest consumer, but it has a high efficiency rating. I chose induction for the stove with resistance heating for the oven.

I do use a heat pump for cooling in the summer time. Seer rating is 27. I live in a semi arid climate and so use a fan at night to cool down the premises.

The apartment is 1100 square feet on the 2nd floor of a 1963 cindercrete block building.

Alas there is no way to add any solar. My windows are north, and west with a tall hotel to the west.

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