JimK-NY

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mkirsch wrote:
How can you not see the difference, unless you are being obtuse to save face for some reason?
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Your photo may make sense to you, but not too me. The exposure is dark and the whole photo was taken at a considerable angle from level.
In any case I fail to understand the issue. I have the same difference with a larger gap in the front of the bed and a smaller gap in the rear. For my Ram, the slope is due to the height of the rails. They are higher in the rear meaning the gap is less in the rear.
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mkirsch

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JimK-NY wrote: mkirsch wrote:
How can you not see the difference, unless you are being obtuse to save face for some reason?
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Your photo may make sense to you, but not too me. The exposure is dark and the whole photo was taken at a considerable angle from level.
In any case I fail to understand the issue. I have the same difference with a larger gap in the front of the bed and a smaller gap in the rear. For my Ram, the slope is due to the height of the rails. They are higher in the rear meaning the gap is less in the rear.
Not my photo. OP's photo.
The issue is, it's not physically possible for the bed to be the same depth front to back, and the camper to be the same depth front to back, and there be a difference in gap along the frame rails, unless there is a structural concern.
If the camper is "rocking" on a crowned bed floor, something's going to give eventually. Either the bed floor or the camper. Neither is a good thing.
If something has already "given" it's not going to heal on its own with time. It's going to get worse.
The OP needs to take the camper out of the truck and figure out what's going on and address it before it gets expensive.
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@mkirsch, the only illusion here could probably be recategorized as delusion by a certain number of respondents.
I sometimes take for granted that others have basic abilities to use things like tape measures, straight edges, cognitive understanding of parallel vs level and the ability to put any of these together to make any correct real world assessment.
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mkirsch wrote:
The issue is, it's not physically possible for the bed to be the same depth front to back, and the camper to be the same depth front to back, and there be a difference in gap along the frame rails, unless there is a structural concern.
I agree. If the bed rails measured the same height in the front and the rear, I would start by rechecking and then checking the height in several locations. I would level the truck bed and then check to see if the rails were level. A 4' level or even a straight yardstick could be used to check for any crown in the truck bed. I would next check and measure the camper overhangs from the base of the camper and do so in multiple locations.
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notsobigjoe

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Give us an update OP... Please!
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5 pages already??…Amazing!!
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scubabri

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I have the same issue and it's been driving me nuts trying to figure out what's what.
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Mkirsch usually isn’t so much use or obtuse. He’s a good guy, but I got the same vibe as you.
That said, if the previous 5 pages doesn’t give you some more ideas or context, then likely the future responses won’t either.
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Grit dog wrote: Mkirsch usually isn’t so much use or obtuse. He’s a good guy, but I got the same vibe as you.
That said, if the previous 5 pages doesn’t give you some more ideas or context, then likely the future responses won’t either.
It just wasn't clear to me what the ultimate solution was. It appears that crowning in the bed can cause this, but it's just not clear.
I'm going to get a borescope and see if there is indeed a gap at the front of the bed when the camper is in that would indicate that it's riding on a crown and tilting towards the rear.
I'll report back.
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notsobigjoe

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scubabri wrote: Grit dog wrote: Mkirsch usually isn’t so much use or obtuse. He’s a good guy, but I got the same vibe as you.
That said, if the previous 5 pages doesn’t give you some more ideas or context, then likely the future responses won’t either.
It just wasn't clear to me what the ultimate solution was. It appears that crowning in the bed can cause this, but it's just not clear.
I'm going to get a borescope and see if there is indeed a gap at the front of the bed when the camper is in that would indicate that it's riding on a crown and tilting towards the rear.
I'll report back.
There really wasn't a solution just more of the same back and forth. I posted some pics and after that I tried to get it perfectly level but with no luck. My Chevy bed is slanted to the rear and closer on the sides in the rear than in the front. That was my answer. Good luck with yours!
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