Planning a trip to Alaska sometime 2023

[Toolguy5]

I seen the post about Truck camper into Canada. It talks about vehicle insurance.

My question is do you actually need a passport?

Everything i have found so far indicates that the new drivers license is acceptable. Does any one know this for a fact. If you need 2 forms of identification and you don’t have a passport what else is acceptable?

We will be towing our 5er. Have not set a route as of yet.

Thanks

[Trackrig]

You can also use a certified copy of your birth certificate.

If you don't want to pay for a full passport, buy just the pass port card.

A driver's licence will not get you through.

There's a lot more info over here. Please check out their tabs.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/782032812734226/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=1053833602220811


Bill

[garym114]

Understand there is a difference between traveling to Canada and traveling through Canada to an international destination. There are also rules for public health
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/covid-vaccinated-travellers-entering-canada

RV.net forum tor Canada and Alaska travelers.
https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/listings/forum/65.cfm
Tons if information in the sticky posts

[AKsilvereagle]

Everything i have found so far indicates that the new drivers license is acceptable.

You must not understand the differences between a :

1 -real ID or real ID driver license
2 -enhanced driver license
3 -passport card or equivalent
4 -passport book

1 - The purpose of the real ID or real ID driver license is maintaining a central federal database for permitting domestic US air travel, access to US federal gov't buildings and installations...it has no bearing what so ever for international travel....

2 - The enhanced driver licenses are only allowed to be issued from US states that directly border with Canada, with the option to participate....

When the program first started under the WHTI (Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative managed under the US Dept of Homeland Security), only four US states first optioned to participate (WA, MN, MI, and NY)...and later on I believe VT joined to issue enhanced driver licenses....

Enhanced driver licenses that are issued from these 5 US states are both equivalent with the same characteristics as a valid passport card while also real ID compliant....

3 - A passport card (also managed under WHTI), permits entry to all land and sea ports of the United States, Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean Islands only....To my knowledge it cannot be used for air travel, however the last I knew there was an added exception a couple years ago to start permitting restricted air travel to only four int'l airports in Canada with the US passport card to and from the United States via Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, and I think either Edmonton or Montreal....

4 - A US passport book's purpose is designated for all forms of air, land and sea travel at all ports of entry (international) while it is also domestically real ID and passport card compliant....

The last I knew, Real ID's and passport cards are valid for 5 to 7 years (unless recently changed) as US passport books are still valid for 10 years at a time....

The one factor upon real ID's, enhanced driver licenses, passport cards or equivalent, and passport books all have in common are :

They all establish both proof of identity and proof of citizenship.

For the record, I first obtained a US passport in 2006 to be future compliant when the US government announced their new required travel rules between countries, and since they added the real ID initiative in the mix later on - a US passport book supersedes any restricted real ID and passport card compliant measures as there is no need for me to obtain any other form of ID as I have a US passport book (valid for 10 years) and a standard driver license (now valid for 7 years)....

Here is a twister in the mix upon the WHTI rules strictly between 'typical' United States and Canada citizens .....

Only citizens of Canada can enter the United States without bearing a passport, as all US citizens and other foreign citizens are required to bear a passport or equivalent to enter or re-enter the United States....

A citizen of Canada that wishes to enter the United States without a passport must show established :

-proof of citizenship (a birth certificate or equivalent) AND
-proof of identity (a government issued ID or driver license if operating a vehicle)


Not under the WHTI rules :

Only citizens of Canada and the United States can enter Canada without bearing a passport....

A citizen of the United States that wishes to enter Canada without a passport must show established :

-proof of citizenship (a birth certificate or equivalent) AND
-proof of identity (a government issued ID or driver license if operating a vehicle)

However, any US citizen when entering Canada will always be asked to present a passport or equivalent mainly because the government of Canada fully knows that US citizens are required to bear a US passport when re-entering the United States....

If a US citizen wishes to enter Canada with just a gov't ID and proof of citizenship - there are some exceptions depending the circumstances that a CBSA or immigration officer of Canada will determine at their discretion, however if one declares that they are taking a long vacation in their RV to Alaska while planning to return to their origin destination in the states - I wouldn't really count on any Canadian official permitting entry as more likely they will inform that US citizen to obtain a travel document.


Not under the WHTI rules (which is US law) :

Citizens of the United States that re-enter the United States without bearing a passport or equivalent CANNOT BE DENIED ENTRY....

-One will automatically be referred to secondary inspection and...

-One will be going thru additional screening measures until CBP officers are satisfied establishing -proof of identity and proof of citizenship on an individual....

More likely when it comes to dealing with CBP re-entering the United States under those circumstances, one will wish they had a passport.

[Lwiddis]

"Everything i have found so far indicates that the new drivers license is acceptable."

2023 is a long way off and regulations change. To be safe get a passport.

[RetiredRealtorR]

valhalla360 wrote:
The days of using your drivers license are long gone. They went out due to 9/11.

Yes, you need a passport. Canada may or may not care but to get back into the USA, you will need to show it (if you are a US Citizen, you will eventually get back in but how many hours do you want to spend at the border because you didn't have the right paperwork?)

There is a passport card available but it's very limited. A full passport takes about the same amount of time/effort to get and is much more versatile if you will ever do any international travel beyond Canada/Mexico.

But you STILL need a driver's license. Those days are not gone. Always carry it, and always use it as one of your forms of ID.

[bob_nestor]

Some (not all) of the border States have a version of an enhanced driver's license that, up until COVID, could be used to cross the border. Not sure if that's still the case after COVID though. Since you're trying to get into Canada it's all up to their authorities. Getting back into the US (if you're a citizen or hold a valid Green Card) isn't as difficult but is much, much easier with a Passport or Passcard.

The best advice is to get a US Passport and for an additional small fee, the Passcard. The Passcard can be used for land crossings, but a Passort was still required if traveling into the country by air or cruise ship the last time I traveled over, around and thru Canada.

[valhalla360]

The days of using your drivers license are long gone. They went out due to 9/11.

Yes, you need a passport. Canada may or may not care but to get back into the USA, you will need to show it (if you are a US Citizen, you will eventually get back in but how many hours do you want to spend at the border because you didn't have the right paperwork?)

There is a passport card available but it's very limited. A full passport takes about the same amount of time/effort to get and is much more versatile if you will ever do any international travel beyond Canada/Mexico.

[Crowe]

I would contact Canada and find out. That way you get the latest and greatest info, including what might be required, if anything, for COVID vaccinations/testing. As Scottiemom stated, getting back in to the US is usually more difficult.

[Scottiemom]

Just get a passport/passport card. You've got time.

Mostly, you need it to get back into the states.

Dale