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JaxDad

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Grit dog wrote:

While this question is not at all RVing related, I just learned that it is possible for govt motor vehicles registration to be far more difficult and screwed up than I could have imagined...


Actually having seen the way it works in numerous jurisdictions I must say that IMHO the system in Ontario is very simple and straightforward.

There is no ad valorem tax (at any level never mind multiples) or annual inspections required. There is a single flat rate fee for license plates (tags) that is based on the RGW of the vehicle for trucks, cars, m/h’s and trailers are free.

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JaxDad wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

While this question is not at all RVing related, I just learned that it is possible for govt motor vehicles registration to be far more difficult and screwed up than I could have imagined...


Actually having seen the way it works in numerous jurisdictions I must say that IMHO the system in Ontario is very simple and straightforward.

There is no ad valorem tax (at any level never mind multiples) or annual inspections required. There is a single flat rate fee for license plates (tags) that is based on the RGW of the vehicle for trucks, cars, m/h’s and trailers are free.


JaxDad, I don't agree with your comment about Ontario being simple. I had a friend (a retired cop) comment that my truck/RV combo requires me to have an "A" license, why? Simply because the regulations are so complicated and written by lawyers that even a cop can't understand them! If a cop can't understand them, how are we citizens supposed to understand and follow them?





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I got caught as well owing about a little over $300. Seems someone renewed my plates at the passenger rate instead of the HD pickup rate. Drag. I spent a bit of time with a nice girl from the MTO who took me through it on the phone after being on hold for two hours. Even if I had noticed while renewing the plates that is what they where doing at the time. Still waiting for the invoice to pay.

It's a PITA that I'm actually going to have to send a cheque in to pay for this instead of online or at an actual office, not even sure I have any? Considering who's at the helm of the Provincial .gov here in ON I shouldn't be surprised.


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almcc wrote:

JaxDad wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

While this question is not at all RVing related, I just learned that it is possible for govt motor vehicles registration to be far more difficult and screwed up than I could have imagined...


Actually having seen the way it works in numerous jurisdictions I must say that IMHO the system in Ontario is very simple and straightforward.

There is no ad valorem tax (at any level never mind multiples) or annual inspections required. There is a single flat rate fee for license plates (tags) that is based on the RGW of the vehicle for trucks, cars, m/h’s and trailers are free.


JaxDad, I don't agree with your comment about Ontario being simple. I had a friend (a retired cop) comment that my truck/RV combo requires me to have an "A" license, why? Simply because the regulations are so complicated and written by lawyers that even a cop can't understand them! If a cop can't understand them, how are we citizens supposed to understand and follow them?


With all due respect neighbour, the reg’s are very simple, if you tow something over 4,600 KG (a little over 10k pounds) you need an “A” or “AR” license. In fact, it’s always been that way, but they made it easier and simpler with the creation of the “AR” license a few years back.

As for your comment about the writing of the laws and reg’s, all of them, in every jurisdiction, are written by lawyers. Do you think they’d be better if they were written by school janitors?

A cop that can’t read simple laws & reg’s? Let’s just leave it at thank goodness he’s retired now.

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Jaxdad, you are behind the times! Have a look at this posting back from the McGinty era that extended the weights for RV's with a G license. If you know it has been cancelled let me know!

https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/18637/making-it-easier-for-rv-drivers-to-enjoy-summer

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shum02 wrote:

I got caught as well owing about a little over $300. Seems someone renewed my plates at the passenger rate instead of the HD pickup rate. Drag. I spent a bit of time with a nice girl from the MTO who took me through it on the phone after being on hold for two hours. Even if I had noticed while renewing the plates that is what they where doing at the time. Still waiting for the invoice to pay.

It's a PITA that I'm actually going to have to send a cheque in to pay for this instead of online or at an actual office, not even sure I have any? Considering who's at the helm of the Provincial .gov here in ON I shouldn't be surprised.


You can pay it online after you’ve gotten all 3 letters and set up the account.


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almcc wrote:

Jaxdad, you are behind the times! Have a look at this posting back from the McGinty era that extended the weights for RV's with a G license. If you know it has been cancelled let me know!

https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/18637/making-it-easier-for-rv-drivers-to-enjoy-summer


No, I didn’t mention it so as not to muddy the subject. It only affects a 5’er.

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@Jaxdad, yup sounds simple as pie. As evidenced by your fellow residents’ issues and reports here…


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Grit dog wrote:

@Jaxdad, yup sounds simple as pie. As evidenced by your fellow residents’ issues and reports here…


I don’t see the ‘catch up’ payments and letters / payments associated with the payment hiatus the last 2 years as any relationship to the licensing itself.

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I did not read all the replies but I got an bill for $ 111. Just go on the website and plug in the number that was on the letter that they gave you and your PIN number that they sent you and then red register it as being used. They'll send you an invoice in the mail within a week and show you where to pay.


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