LL8
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Hello,
Just looking for some thoughts on pulling hills with 3.42 gears.
I'm going back to a pop-up TC @ 1800 lbs dry weight.
The trucks I'm looking at are the Chevy and GMC 3500's SRW 4x4, standard bed, crew cab, with the 6.6L diesel.
Their payload rating in 4185 lbs
They only come with a 3.42 gear option but have a 10 speed Allison transmission.
And I like the 20" wheels just for the looks.
Do you think this will be an issue hauling up mountain roads and interstates (East Coast) at closer to 3000 lbs fully loaded? Or should I look at the other competitors with a 3.73 option?
TRANSMISSION & AXLE
Thanks for the advice
Type: Hydra-Matic 6L90 six-speed automatic (6.6L gas)
Allison® 10L1000 10-speed automatic (6.6L diesel)
Gear Ratios (:1): 6L90 10L1000
First 4.03 4.54
Second 2.36 2.87
Third 1.53 2.06
Fourth 1.15 1.72
Fifth 0.85 1.48
Sixth 0.67 1.26
Seventh -- 1.00
Eighth -- 0.85
Ninth -- 0.69
Tenth -- 0.63
Reverse 3.06 4.54
Final Drive Ratio:
3.73 (6.6L gas)
3.42 (6.6L diesel)
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jimh406
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I don't think 3.42 will be an issue with one of the newer diesels. Worst case, it will downshift going up mountains. On the other hand, my 4.30 gears never downshifts but runs at a lot higher RPM using more fuel even when empty.
If I was you, I'd look at the tire capacity of the sizes for the brands you like. You may find the 18s to be a better choice for a SRW. I'm assuming you are talking about SRW since you mentioned 20s.
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LL8
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Thanks, the 18” wheels are standard and the 20” are a add on option. If I go with the 20’s it’s only for looks. I know I’ll sacrifice some MPG and some of the gear ratio. I’d love to have them if it’s not a huge trade off.
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jdc1
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LL8 wrote:Thanks, the 18” wheels are standard and the 20” are a add on option. If I go with the 20’s it’s only for looks. I know I’ll sacrifice some MPG and some of the gear ratio. I’d love to have them if it’s not a huge trade off.
Those 20's will also decrease ride comfort. Less sidewall.
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Grit dog
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jdc1 wrote:
Those 20's will also decrease ride comfort. Less sidewall.
Negative.
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Grit dog
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@LL8… You do realize that the truck(s) you’re talking about are rated to tow like 20klbs or more, right?
A new Duramax won’t even work hard with a popup TC on it. An old diesel won’t either. Heck nearly any HD pickup gas or diesel from the last 20 years will haul your camper very competently.
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ssthrd
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My new to me camper has an advertised UVW of 1675 lbs which when loaded translated to 2800 lbs at the scale. I also pull a 14000 lb 5er. Neither bothered my 2018 at all. My door sticker says 3470lbs, so much less than the ones you are looking at. Towed in the mountains all over North America and of course my 6 speed downshifted of the steepest grades, but was never stressed. The 10 speed should carry/tow like a champ.
No worries. Load up and go camping!
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valhalla360
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Even if the loaded truck camper is 3800lb, the drivetrain will hardly notice it.
Worst case, it will drop down a gear or two and run at roughly the same RPM that the higher (numerical) rear end would run at.
Assuming the tires/wheels don't degrade the payload, you should be fine.
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BurbMan
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I wouldn't sweat it, my truck also has 3.42 rear with 6 speed transmission and handled the Lance fine, also pulls the new 13k 5er fine too. Rear axle is more critical with gas engines and older 4 speed transmissions that had wider gear spacing.
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JRscooby
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Do you think they would put in as only choice of ratio something that would not be satisfactory at GCVWR?
Politicians might shoot themselves in the foot like that, car manufactures much less likely, IMHO.
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