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Huntindog

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Posted: 06/15/22 04:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Some of you are getting way off in the weeds.
This is an RV forum. Dissing perfectly RV capable trucks because they will not go up a 30% or whatever grade at a construction site is just not important to an RVer.... I am sure there is a more appropriate forum to discuss such issues.
I find them boring to the point that I fail to read most of it.

I will suggest that if those that want to spend time on these long detailed posts want people to actually read them.... find a forum where people are interested in such dribble. Otherwise you are just wasting your time, as most here just don't care about your issues.



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blt2ski wrote:

millesecond wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Question, should I follow my 14k GVWR on my 2015 RAM DRW?


Don't hijack this thread, start your own. Haha j/k


X3 you dingle snort.
Besides, iirc from a post somewhere in the past, you're paying for a 16k plate from good old washtaxington!
Your question is herby dismiss able to this murdurator!
Shame on you!

Back to your hidey hole!!!


Hi, my name is Ron, my friends call me Dingle Snort ! ![emoticon]


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Posted: 06/15/22 07:01am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Question, should I follow my 14k GVWR on my 2015 RAM DRW?


I am not one to go by factory GVWR since it is based on outdated trucks and needs to be updated for todays trucks instead of those half a century ago. Nor is it legally binding to me in any way.

I do go by GAWR since is not based on any government regulation, but rather the limitation of the actual hard parts. In this case, you can't go much over 14k since both of your GAWR add up to 15,850 lbs. The GAWR's of my 2500 add up to 12,500 lbs, but has a GVWR of 10k, while the the 3500 version of my truck have GAWR's that add up to 13,000 yet has a GVWR of 12,300. So your combined GAWR is 1,850 lbs over your GVWR, a SRW 3500 of the same year has a combined GAWR at 700 lbs over its GVWR, and my 2500 has a combined GAWR that is 2,500 lbs over its GVWR.

Why does the 3500 SRW, which is well below the max 14k GVWR of it's class, only has 700 lbs separating its combined GAWR from it's GVWR, yet both our trucks, which are at the max GVWR of our classes, have over 1,800 lbs and 2,500 lbs separating our combined GAWR from our GVWR. Hmmm!?!

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blt2ski wrote:

millesecond wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Question, should I follow my 14k GVWR on my 2015 RAM DRW?


Don't hijack this thread, start your own. Haha j/k


X3 you dingle snort.
Besides, iirc from a post somewhere in the past, you're paying for a 16k plate from good old washtaxington!
Your question is herby dismiss able to this murdurator!
Shame on you!

Back to your hidey hole!!!


I feel ashamed and will now self impose a quarantine. Oh yea we all know those don't work. [emoticon]

Actually my plate is from SD and it has no specific tonnage but they say it covers whatever I can throw at it.


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Huntingdog,
If you knew how many 15-25% local road grades one has to go up here in the Puget sound region, you might figure out why a person would come up with a 30%grade want. No different than folks on here saying reduce max tow by 20%.
Forest service roads have no max limit like interstates at 6%.
My sister lives on an 18%grade.
People do drive fully loaded trucks with trailers thru Seattle, I'd be 50%of the roads are 15% or steeper.
A perfectly capable RV pickup as you say, needs to work for those in construction, delivery, grocery getter etc. Ratings are one size fits all.
I have stalled an older truck out with my RV in tow in 2wd when it should not have stalled out. With in gcwr mind you.
I have MY definition of min performance of what a truck should do. I have no problem saying, the current spec is lower than my mine.
My performance spec is really no different than one needing proper wieght ratings for payload needs etc. Just another, will this truck work for me. You should be doing the same! Demanding actual specs saying the truck you buying will get you from point A to B on what ever type of road you drive on.
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ford truck guy wrote:

blt2ski wrote:

millesecond wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Question, should I follow my 14k GVWR on my 2015 RAM DRW?


Don't hijack this thread, start your own. Haha j/k


X3 you dingle snort.
Besides, iirc from a post somewhere in the past, you're paying for a 16k plate from good old washtaxington!
Your question is herby dismiss able to this murdurator!
Shame on you!

Back to your hidey hole!!!


Hi, my name is Ron, my friends call me Dingle Snort ! ![emoticon]


I kinda like that, it's much better than....well I can't say it on here. [emoticon]

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Walaby wrote:

12 pages and not one comment on "you'll lose your a$$ if you get in a wreck" comment. Unless I missed it, that has to be some sort of a record.

Oh where or where have the internet lawyers gone?

Oh where or where can they be?

Mike


OMG, you’re right!
Maybe we are making a little progress here! Lol


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ShinerBock wrote:

Some of ya'll worrying about weight ought to come down here to Texas and see all of the things being towed down I-35 to Mexico. You will burst a blood vessel.

You will have a mini van full of people and junk, towing a Chevy 1500(they love their Chevys down there) with the bed and inside full of junk, and behind that is a small Honda full junk. This is a common site heading down to the dear lease, and I will probably pass four or five of these caravans in my three hour drive.

Not once did I ever see one pulled over by the state troopers or in an accident. I did see many broke down on the side of the road though, but the cops just go right by them.


Ha, I remember the beaner trains from our time living in AZ and NM.
Folks here think I’m some sort of cowboy with towing habits.
Those folks absolutely put me to chame (Spanglish for shame)!
And you’re right, I don’t recall seeing them pulled over by the 5-0 nor upside down in ditches.

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Grit dog wrote:

Walaby wrote:

12 pages and not one comment on "you'll lose your a$$ if you get in a wreck" comment. Unless I missed it, that has to be some sort of a record.

Oh where or where have the internet lawyers gone?

Oh where or where can they be?

Mike


OMG, you’re right!
Maybe we are making a little progress here! Lol


Yes, that is some progress for sure! I am still surprised at how many still firmly believe in stickers, that are there for Govt regs, in many cases. Maybe more do understand, but just for sake of discussion keep the ball rolling??

Jerry





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MFL wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Walaby wrote:

12 pages and not one comment on "you'll lose your a$$ if you get in a wreck" comment. Unless I missed it, that has to be some sort of a record.

Oh where or where have the internet lawyers gone?

Oh where or where can they be?

Mike


OMG, you’re right!
Maybe we are making a little progress here! Lol


Yes, that is some progress for sure! I am still surprised at how many still firmly believe in stickers, that are there for Govt regs, in many cases. Maybe more do understand, but just for sake of discussion keep the ball rolling??

Jerry


When I first brought this up 15 some odd yrs ago, folks swore I was wrong. Then a fellow named wadcutter showed, a retired CVEO and told them folks they were wrong. One mod even tried to say RVs were different rules than commercial. He was told any over 10000 has to follow the same laws.
You will not keep yourself out of trouble, Murphy's law, just being under sticker limits.
IMHO, best people know good vs bad habits. There are a multitude rules and laws that will get an unsafe person off the road. ALL of them are moving violations, way the heck worst than being over wieght! Which is a non moving violation.
Oh the stories some of us can tell! Lol

Marty

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