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ACZL

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Posted: 06/16/22 05:49pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Stopped by our old RV dealer today to speak w/ a person there and off course off today. So struck up a conversation w/ a sales lady about their take on today's SRW trucks and what the mfr's of them are saying about towing and what the RV dealer recommends. Well it seems the RV dealer is saying that you really don't need a DRW for 5ers unless your doing a lot of cross country driving. Being a lil surprised, I asked even tho the GVW of the 5er is pushing 15,5 and up, pin weights of 3500 and up? Reply back was, "depends on weight capacity of the truck".

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Well, his reply was correct. SOME 350/3500 SRWs have payload capacities in excess of 4,000 lbs now with certain configurations.

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Posted: 06/16/22 09:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Depends on what one considers as payload capacities...truck makers gvwr based payload sticker that can overload the trucks rawr or the trucks rawr payload.


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My 2000 C2500 had 3800 lbs of payload per door sticker. An additional 1600 or so if I added the axle capacities. I've pulled a 12000 lb equipment trailer via pintle hitch with out too many issues. It had poor low end gearing, so it stalled out on anything over 10-12% in grade.
At the end of the day, there person is correct, if the truck has the payload to handle the trailer, go for it.
Performance wise, depending upon the motor, gears in trans and pumpkins, along with torque for getting going, hp for max speed on a freeway grade.....it may not meet the drivers spec......

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Posted: 06/16/22 10:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

SRW? Is that a 250/2500 or 350/3500? Crew cab? Diesel? 4WD? Premium or work truck?

How would the sales person know unless the actual capacity was given? The answer was solid IMO.


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BB_TX wrote:

Well, his reply was correct. SOME 350/3500 SRWs have payload capacities in excess of 4,000 lbs now with certain configurations.


While that may be true, that doesn’t mean you can haul a 5th wheel with a 4,000# pin. That payload sticker is only valid on the factory floor. Anything added to that 5er after that time, reduces that payload. Depending on number of passengers and stuff carried in the TV the available payload left for pin might be as low as 3,000#!


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Sounds like the old "With that truck, you can pull anything on the lot" story. What do they know or care? You have to do your own due diligence and make your own conclusion. They are there to sell RVs.

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I'm reading that that sales person said the right thing,it all depends on the truck.
I'm a pre def diesel guy with a 05 Ram dually due to my 5er weights. When Ram beefed up the frame in 2010 a 3500 single wheel would handle my needs. If I find the right one I'll move up. Also you get a real crew cab starting in 2010, although the quad cab is sufficient room wise.


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I'm reading that that sales person said the right thing,it all depends on the truck.
I'm a pre def diesel guy with a 05 Ram dually due to my 5er weights. When Ram beefed up the frame in 2010 a 3500 single wheel would handle my needs. If I find the right one I'll move up. A DPF doesn't bother me but no way I'm doing DEF. Cummins started DEF in 13 IIRC. Also you get a real crew cab starting in 2010, although the quad cab is sufficient room wise.
My 05 dually has a rear axle rating of 9350 lbs when a 3500 single wheel in the same configuration is 6010 IIRC. Starting in 2010 the SRW goes up to about 6500 lbs and that gets me to a single wheel. I sure would like to lose those hips, the fuel penalty of 6 wheels, and the price of tires at 50% more per set.
I've been on more than one CAT scale and did the Escapees smart weigh. I know my weights.

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I appreciate the answer because they're right. It does depend on the truck and configuration. Numbers don't lie. You need a specific FW and a specific truck, check the numbers and see if it works.


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