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Marty said: "Actually I like the "what if it were a front tire?"

Was a good question...Grit will be along to apologize pretty soon, nothing wrong with that! I would, if I ever offended someone unnecessarily. [emoticon]

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MFL wrote:

Marty said: "Actually I like the "what if it were a front tire?"

Was a good question...Grit will be along to apologize pretty soon, nothing wrong with that! I would, if I ever offended someone unnecessarily. [emoticon]

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He hasn't apologized yrt6!
I'll leave him in the Perverbial dog house in the mean time.

My swag, the big three could easily come up with 7500-8500 grawr setups, have 500 min more lbs of payload than an equal dw setup. My 286 65 18 tires on my 1500 are close to 4000 per tire. A 305 or 315 should put one over 8000.

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My swag, the big three could easily come up with 7500-8500 grawr setups, have 500 min more lbs of payload than an equal dw setup. My 286 65 18 tires on my 1500 are close to 4000 per tire. A 305 or 315 should put one over 8000.

Marty

Last winter I checked in on one of the Dodge/Ram diesel forums where one forum member does a talk with a Ram engineer topic every so often.
The very question came up why doesn't Ram uprate their 3500 srw 11.5" AAM rawr to 7.8k-8k + lbs.
Engineer covered a few reasons but the main one being new OEM uprated wheels (load and diameter) would have to be mfg'ed and the tire industry would have to come up with tire lines to meet 4k-4.5k tire diameter and load ratings/psi rating and possible a F load range for the new OEM wheels.

GM may be the first to upgrade their 3500 srw to the 8k +/- range. They sure made a good move on the 10500 rawr on their drw trucks.


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Jim,
The guy is full of sheet! 265-70-19.5 lrG will net you iir 5000-5500 per tire. Iirc their is a 285 too. Closer to 5500 yet! Granted you would have to go to a 10 lug setup to have "EASY" access to tires. Those are 33-35" or so in diam. A 245 shy of 5000 iirc, is 32.5", 225s 31.5", 4100?!?!? Lbs capacity in lr g. Should go outside like at my IHC...
So assuming you can build a 10-11k RA, 6K FA, talking class 4 truck with singles. If you can get an 8' put on it, great rig for the 12' slide campers, larger 5W setups.
It can be done now. I can see where rim manufactures in typical 8 lug class 3 sizes could be screwed. This would not, nor should it be a 35 series or smaller gvw. It's solid 45 series truck.

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Now that I think this thru a bit, there's no SWv19.5s mad in mass right now. Rims would be an issue with this option. Everything else should be an easy put together. Assuming a steel wheel option, should not be too hard. Outer rim is same as a dw. Need the center part designed, weld to outer rim...
Aluminum, would be another issue.

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blt2ski wrote:

Now that I think this thru a bit, there's no SWv19.5s mad in mass right now. Rims would be an issue with this option. Everything else should be an easy put together. Assuming a steel wheel option, should not be too hard. Outer rim is same as a dw. Need the center part designed, weld to outer rim...
Aluminum, would be another issue.

Marty


And we all know what a smooth ride the 19.5'a at that rating supply, not!


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Chris,

Ive not had any problem with my IHC with 225's on it! Like LT tires, some do have a stiffer ride than others, depending upon the case construction. It is an option that nets full capacity, to FBL tread limits, some are even a bit more than FBL width amounts.

At the end of the day, tires are available, whether we as consumers want them on a given rig or not is another story.

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Apologies for further mucking up a thread, that was frankly started with that intention anyway.
But don’t believe that t2r was doing anything but also trying to add to the mess by his interjection. Think about it….
It was the typical “3rd grader” response that so many on here feel the need to put forth at the weirdest times, for what personal satisfaction I can’t begin to understand.


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One aspect is many one ton srw owners didn't want a drw and a rougher ride....or didn't need 4 tires and 10500 lb rawr payloads.

Most of us are old enough to remember for years all we had was 16" and later 16.5" tires and wheels. Thankfully the 16.5" were dropped in favor of our current 17"/18"/20" tires and wheels. New OEM 18" and 20" took a while for wheel and tire mfg to mass produce enough for all the LDT manufactures.
It will be interesting to see what Ram/GM/ Ford truck mfg come up for the next new gen mass produced higher capacity tires and wheels as gawrs on these trucks are steadily going up.

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Grit dog wrote:

time2roll is on a roll! 2 fish with one cast!
Remember, he's not thinking in practical, probable, real world terms...
Just curious why all the comfort and security is given to a flat tire on the rear of a dually.
Seems like the front tire is a bigger issue. No great solution for the front that I know of.

This is the practical real world. Unless an issue with the front is mitigated with having four in the rear. Is there actually a greater chance of an issue with dual wheels? There is a wider area to collect debris and potentially something gets between the sidewalls.

Do SRW and DRW have the same number of rear tire issues? (not withstanding overload)


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