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blt2ski wrote:Now that I've reread intial better....
If the gas rigs are pre 2014, assuming a 6.0 gas, I would not buy that rig, 2500, 3500 SW or dw! A 6.6 gas is a way better option power wise. If at elevations below 6-7k' best. It will go to the 10-12k feet elevation in Rockies, but your down 30% of HP at those levels. If a single life time trip, go fo for it, if ALL the time over next 3+ years, get one of the diesels from last 10-15 yrs.
An ext cab may be ok payload wise, depending upon options 6.5 bed is 200 LS less than an 8' bed. The longer bed and wheelbase may be better than the loss of payload.
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What’s the aversion to pre-2014? Same power and 6 speed back to at least 2010 as I recall.
I know the body/chassis updated in 2015 if that’s what you meant. But I’m not aware of any major chassis capability changes.
Regardless, OP shouldn’t even consider unless 4.10 gears.
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rarin'2go wrote:What would I have to do to upgrade it to be able to safely tow my 14000 trailer?
Short answer, NOTHING.
You could tow thousands upon thousands of miles with the truck stock, frame pushed down on the axle. As long as everything is mechanically in good shape and working, you'll perfectly safe.
You won't be comfortable, though.
The inability of this forum to differentiate between safety and comfort is unfathomable.
Unsafe is running on bald tires, brakes worn paper thin, wheel bearings growling...
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Grit dog wrote:blt2ski wrote:Now that I've reread intial better....
If the gas rigs are pre 2014, assuming a 6.0 gas, I would not buy that rig, 2500, 3500 SW or dw! A 6.6 gas is a way better option power wise. If at elevations below 6-7k' best. It will go to the 10-12k feet elevation in Rockies, but your down 30% of HP at those levels. If a single life time trip, go fo for it, if ALL the time over next 3+ years, get one of the diesels from last 10-15 yrs.
An ext cab may be ok payload wise, depending upon options 6.5 bed is 200 LS less than an 8' bed. The longer bed and wheelbase may be better than the loss of payload.
Marty
What’s the aversion to pre-2014? Same power and 6 speed back to at least 2010 as I recall.
I know the body/chassis updated in 2015 if that’s what you meant. But I’m not aware of any major chassis capability changes.
Regardless, OP shouldn’t even consider unless 4.10 gears.
IIRC, 2014 was the year GM 2500 6.0 went to 4.10 gearing as standard, since earlier standard was 3.73.
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Also, the 6.0/4.10 combo of that time was rated to tow a FW around 15K. Not saying it would be a comfortable tow, but if OP is towing mostly flat midwest roads, it may be acceptable.
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mkirsch wrote:rarin'2go wrote:What would I have to do to upgrade it to be able to safely tow my 14000 trailer?
Short answer, NOTHING.
You could tow thousands upon thousands of miles with the truck stock, frame pushed down on the axle. As long as everything is mechanically in good shape and working, you'll perfectly safe.
You won't be comfortable, though.
The inability of this forum to differentiate between safety and comfort is unfathomable.
Unsafe is running on bald tires, brakes worn paper thin, wheel bearings growling...
Well said.
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Grit,
The 2014+ is that generally speaking, a lot of the gas motors did get significant HP/torque/mpg gains. More so in the under 8400 gvwr relm than 25/35 series. Hence recommendation. If as you point out, the last improvement was 2010 for the 6L gas, Go back that far. At that point in time, finding a rig in decent shape is a crapshoot at best
Even the 3.73 to 4.10 std option is not a big deal. The 6sp/3.73 is better than a 4Lxx with a 4.88 ratio from a get up and go stand point!
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I've got a Chevy with the 6.0 and 3.73, and tow an 8000lb TT. That is all I'd want to tow with it. Newer ones have a little more HP, and 2 more gears, but it's gonna struggle with 14k.
If looking at 2020 or newer, look at Fords 7.3 gasser. It way out performs the Chevy 6.6 gas.
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Michelle.S wrote:Maybe it's just me, but not sure I would be trying to pull a 14K Fifth wheel with a gasser unless it was all down hill.
This being RV.net in the tow vehicles section, I've got to disagree with you! ![[emoticon]](https://forums.goodsamclub.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
If all my towing was downhill, I'd rather have the diesel with integrated exhaust brake!
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Then you would have a Diesel and not a Gasser, the down hill part was tongue and cheek.
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spoon059 wrote:Michelle.S wrote:Maybe it's just me, but not sure I would be trying to pull a 14K Fifth wheel with a gasser unless it was all down hill.
This being RV.net in the tow vehicles section, I've got to disagree with you!
If all my towing was downhill, I'd rather have the diesel with integrated exhaust brake!
That is actually a valid argument spoon ! ! !![[emoticon]](https://forums.goodsamclub.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
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