โJul-26-2022 04:58 PM
โJul-28-2022 07:30 PM
notsobigjoe wrote:3 tons wrote:
Electric doesn't resolve anything (except to relocate urban pollution to a power-plant), but it makes folks feel good and they're fun to drive (shush!!โฆ.especially with gov subsidies!!)โฆ
From a slightly different perspective, I can see where they might make โrational senseโ where one commutes but has a decent solar and battery set-up at home - itโs been reported that home utility charging Kw rates are often as much as gasolineโฆ
On a different note, a modern petro powered automoblle is very nearly a pollution free vehicle (except for CO2 and water vapor), meaning much cleaner than the power produced at the power-plant and โsucked upโ by EVโs - a home solar and power-wall can close the EV loopโฆ
(bring on โthe hatersโ - lol ๐ )
3 tons
That makes perfect sense to me but of course your leaving the most important part and that is regulation. The government cannot regulate something as small as your description so it must be a huge conglomerate in order to line pockets. There is a scam right now in Florida and itโs everything I spoke of in this post. The state of Florida will pay for the actual parts of a solar install and thatโs great but the catch is that the labor to install it comes with a thirty year mortgage. Again nothing is st it seems just like the EV.
โJul-28-2022 03:49 PM
BigSwick wrote:
I have heard that it costs like a buck a minute for every minute your car stays plugged in AFTER it is fully charged. So, don't walk over to that Burger King for lunch and be late coming back, or that $10 combo special will really cost you!
โJul-28-2022 03:44 PM
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โJul-28-2022 02:54 PM
Reisender wrote:
Hi Joe. What looks like generators at a Supercharger are the actual charger racks. The other things with the cord and the connectors are just the pedestals. The actual electronics is actually are in the cabinets that look like generators but they are not.
Here is a pic. This is a trailer slot but you can see the cabinets on the left and another dozen pedestals in the background.
Here is another pic. Those are the inverter racks on the right.
โJul-28-2022 02:52 PM
3 tons wrote:
Electric doesn't resolve anything (except to relocate urban pollution to a power-plant), but it makes folks feel good and they're fun to drive (shush!!โฆ.especially with gov subsidies!!)โฆ
From a slightly different perspective, I can see where they might make โrational senseโ where one commutes but has a decent solar and battery set-up at home - itโs been reported that home utility charging Kw rates are often as much as gasolineโฆ
On a different note, a modern petro powered automoblle is very nearly a pollution free vehicle (except for CO2 and water vapor), meaning much cleaner than the power produced at the power-plant and โsucked upโ by EVโs - a home solar and power-wall can close the EV loopโฆ
(bring on โthe hatersโ - lol ๐ )
3 tons
โJul-28-2022 02:48 PM
โJul-28-2022 02:17 PM
โJul-28-2022 01:51 PM
notsobigjoe wrote:Reisender wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:Reisender wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:Reisender wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:
Can't help but notice that no one is charging their electric car in the second photo. Where in the pristine forest I did they put the diesel generator to power the electric cords that power the electric cars? Nothing political I assure you but I'm curious where all of this electric powered stuff is going to get their power from. Who pays for the fuel that is trucked to the generators that power the electric cars and who pays for the maintenance of the same. Is it taxes. If so when we all buy an electric car instead of a fuel driven car can we expect our taxes to go way up? The electric grid maintenance workers will want to unionize and that will drive prices up. Everyone who owns an electric car lets say 400 million on the roads are going to have an incredible amount of waste that will of course have to recycled or put in a special landfill. Uneducated people in charge will of course see a need for yet more conservation and put limits on the electric vehicles all in the name of the planet and their pockets. That leads to the question of heating our homes with the same dirty polluting fossil fuels that the electric cars are fighting against. A scenario we already have in place with fossil fuels.
Good morning. Are we looking at different pictures? There is a blue car charging at the far station.
I have never seen a diesel generator at any charge station anywhere in Canada and we have used hundreds across the country. In the case of this pic you can see the BC hydro transformer in the pic.
Good morning to you, I know know the post sounds snarky it is not meant to be. I do not have a clue as to how anything operates in Canada. I would be lying if I told you I did. Here where I live in Florida and my home town of Binghamton ny these charging stations are hooked into the established power grid. As you get further out of town in both states you lose the established grid and the charging stations are right next to the generator. I believe you plug the car in and the generator turns on. My question or point that I poorly made is what is the difference between the electric vehicle and the well established fossil fuel system. Please donโt compare apples to oranges you and I know that a great of pollution is put into our environment by building either car. They both make pollution in there own way. My question is why change one system to a new system thatโs produces exactly the same outcome in the long run. What is a hydro transformer. Thanks, joe
Hi Joe. Yah. Not up on how it is down there.
BC hydro is the name of our provincial utility. Up here the word hydro is synonymous with โpowerโ. So for example someone may ask you. Hey Joe, how big was your hydro bill this month? Meaning how big was your power bill. So a BC hydro transformer is just an electrical transformer. Itโs the same in a few other provinces, for example, Hydro Quebec etc.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, this is similar to what I was talking about here where I live the article is from Australia but the pic says it all. Again not being a smarty pants just pointing out what I see.
https://joannenova.com.au/2019/08/the-diesel-generator-behind-the-electric-car-charging-point/
Hi Joe. I got a few replies from the Central Florida Electric Vehicle Association on facebook. I took a screen shot of one of them. What you may have seen is the Florida power and light test bed. Sounds like it may be pallet mounted and one person on another group felt it was painted a light tan colour. Maybe that is what you saw. Anyway, sounds like it is a work in progress. Here is the screen shot.
We have camping friends in Florida and are hoping to camp thru that area in early spring of 2024...ish.
Cheers.
I believe you have cleared up my misconceptions. That is what I see here in Florida but in my it looked like a generator. Either way thanks for clearing that up. Donโt come to Florida now if you know whatโs good for you. Hot as helll! See you in the spring of 24โฆ
โJul-28-2022 12:47 PM
โJul-28-2022 12:39 PM
Reisender wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:Reisender wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:Reisender wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:
Can't help but notice that no one is charging their electric car in the second photo. Where in the pristine forest I did they put the diesel generator to power the electric cords that power the electric cars? Nothing political I assure you but I'm curious where all of this electric powered stuff is going to get their power from. Who pays for the fuel that is trucked to the generators that power the electric cars and who pays for the maintenance of the same. Is it taxes. If so when we all buy an electric car instead of a fuel driven car can we expect our taxes to go way up? The electric grid maintenance workers will want to unionize and that will drive prices up. Everyone who owns an electric car lets say 400 million on the roads are going to have an incredible amount of waste that will of course have to recycled or put in a special landfill. Uneducated people in charge will of course see a need for yet more conservation and put limits on the electric vehicles all in the name of the planet and their pockets. That leads to the question of heating our homes with the same dirty polluting fossil fuels that the electric cars are fighting against. A scenario we already have in place with fossil fuels.
Good morning. Are we looking at different pictures? There is a blue car charging at the far station.
I have never seen a diesel generator at any charge station anywhere in Canada and we have used hundreds across the country. In the case of this pic you can see the BC hydro transformer in the pic.
Good morning to you, I know know the post sounds snarky it is not meant to be. I do not have a clue as to how anything operates in Canada. I would be lying if I told you I did. Here where I live in Florida and my home town of Binghamton ny these charging stations are hooked into the established power grid. As you get further out of town in both states you lose the established grid and the charging stations are right next to the generator. I believe you plug the car in and the generator turns on. My question or point that I poorly made is what is the difference between the electric vehicle and the well established fossil fuel system. Please donโt compare apples to oranges you and I know that a great of pollution is put into our environment by building either car. They both make pollution in there own way. My question is why change one system to a new system thatโs produces exactly the same outcome in the long run. What is a hydro transformer. Thanks, joe
Hi Joe. Yah. Not up on how it is down there.
BC hydro is the name of our provincial utility. Up here the word hydro is synonymous with โpowerโ. So for example someone may ask you. Hey Joe, how big was your hydro bill this month? Meaning how big was your power bill. So a BC hydro transformer is just an electrical transformer. Itโs the same in a few other provinces, for example, Hydro Quebec etc.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, this is similar to what I was talking about here where I live the article is from Australia but the pic says it all. Again not being a smarty pants just pointing out what I see.
https://joannenova.com.au/2019/08/the-diesel-generator-behind-the-electric-car-charging-point/
Hi Joe. I got a few replies from the Central Florida Electric Vehicle Association on facebook. I took a screen shot of one of them. What you may have seen is the Florida power and light test bed. Sounds like it may be pallet mounted and one person on another group felt it was painted a light tan colour. Maybe that is what you saw. Anyway, sounds like it is a work in progress. Here is the screen shot.
We have camping friends in Florida and are hoping to camp thru that area in early spring of 2024...ish.
Cheers.
โJul-28-2022 12:13 PM
notsobigjoe wrote:Reisender wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:Reisender wrote:notsobigjoe wrote:
Can't help but notice that no one is charging their electric car in the second photo. Where in the pristine forest I did they put the diesel generator to power the electric cords that power the electric cars? Nothing political I assure you but I'm curious where all of this electric powered stuff is going to get their power from. Who pays for the fuel that is trucked to the generators that power the electric cars and who pays for the maintenance of the same. Is it taxes. If so when we all buy an electric car instead of a fuel driven car can we expect our taxes to go way up? The electric grid maintenance workers will want to unionize and that will drive prices up. Everyone who owns an electric car lets say 400 million on the roads are going to have an incredible amount of waste that will of course have to recycled or put in a special landfill. Uneducated people in charge will of course see a need for yet more conservation and put limits on the electric vehicles all in the name of the planet and their pockets. That leads to the question of heating our homes with the same dirty polluting fossil fuels that the electric cars are fighting against. A scenario we already have in place with fossil fuels.
Good morning. Are we looking at different pictures? There is a blue car charging at the far station.
I have never seen a diesel generator at any charge station anywhere in Canada and we have used hundreds across the country. In the case of this pic you can see the BC hydro transformer in the pic.
Good morning to you, I know know the post sounds snarky it is not meant to be. I do not have a clue as to how anything operates in Canada. I would be lying if I told you I did. Here where I live in Florida and my home town of Binghamton ny these charging stations are hooked into the established power grid. As you get further out of town in both states you lose the established grid and the charging stations are right next to the generator. I believe you plug the car in and the generator turns on. My question or point that I poorly made is what is the difference between the electric vehicle and the well established fossil fuel system. Please donโt compare apples to oranges you and I know that a great of pollution is put into our environment by building either car. They both make pollution in there own way. My question is why change one system to a new system thatโs produces exactly the same outcome in the long run. What is a hydro transformer. Thanks, joe
Hi Joe. Yah. Not up on how it is down there.
BC hydro is the name of our provincial utility. Up here the word hydro is synonymous with โpowerโ. So for example someone may ask you. Hey Joe, how big was your hydro bill this month? Meaning how big was your power bill. So a BC hydro transformer is just an electrical transformer. Itโs the same in a few other provinces, for example, Hydro Quebec etc.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, this is similar to what I was talking about here where I live the article is from Australia but the pic says it all. Again not being a smarty pants just pointing out what I see.
https://joannenova.com.au/2019/08/the-diesel-generator-behind-the-electric-car-charging-point/
โJul-28-2022 10:17 AM
notsobigjoe wrote:
I've been reading for hours on this subject and have come to the conclusion of "whatever"
EV owners pay for their fuel just like fuel owners do. The trade off is without a doubt the wait for the charge to complete cheaply as opposed to fueling up and going expensively. The myEV article does a great job with the selling points of an EV but treads ever so lightly around the actual cost of running one but any fuel car dealer would do this as well. The more EV's there are the greater the cost will be and the larger the environmental footprint. Electricity will not be cheap in this fossil free world and the roads will not be free of pollution and everything else we have already. Although very, very interesting, in my humble opinion it will be a complete waste of time and very profitable for the same people that already profit off of fossil fuels.
https://www.myev.com/research/ev-101/what-it-costs-to-charge-an-electric-vehicle
https://www.plugshare.com/?latitude=38.895185&longitude=-77.036366&spanLat=0.335077&spanLng=0.986023
https://chargehub.com/en/countries/united-states/florida.html